china? is it time america took -- the example, the classic one is apple. the most successful company in the world. they employ more people in china than america. that, to me, is wrong. >> it may be wrong, but it is the way. >> why is it the way? >> because it got so expensive to hire a laborer here with the insurance, with everything, we couldn't afford it. things are getting more and more expensive. then walmart comes in. >> doesn't america have to work at a way of affording it. shouldn't companies like apple, a brilliant company but i disagree with an american company having more people employed in china than in their own country. they should be looking after their own country, shouldn't they? >> in their way they are. if they had to hire people here to produce ipads and ipods we would have to charge four or five times more than they are now. >> or apple reduces the massive profits in the national interest. >> possibly but that isn't the american way. it's not unthinkable, i just don't think they are going to do it. >> let's take a break and get answers from miss already fired up. i can feel it. [ applause ] [ male announcer ] what if we tol

the classic example is apple, the most successful in the world but apple employs more in china than america. that to me is wrong. >> it may be wrong but it is the way. >> why is it the way? >> it is the way because it got so expensive to hire a laborer here with the insurance and everything. we couldn't afford it because things kept getting more and more expensive. you have walmart coming in. >> doesn't america have to work out a way of affording it? shouldn't companies like apple who i think is a brilliant company, i fundamentally disaagree with an american company having more people employed in china than their own country. >> in their way they are looking after their country. if they had to hire the people here to produce the ipods and ipads we would have to charge four to five times the amount of money that they are being charged to do it now. >> let's address the unthinkable or apple reduces its massive profits slightly. >> possibly. is it the american way? it's not unthinkable. i don't think they are going to do it. >> let's take a break and come back and get some questions from ms. a

have apple everywhere and i have a real ideological problem that they employ more people in china than americas wrong. i have a debate with financial people, and why can't they one day say we will bring back 10% of the workforce and put it back in america and take a little bit of a hit, because if they did, the american people would respond so favorably, they would make the money back anyway. >> because, you know, like it is in all businesses and like in politics and anything else, your greatest strength can be the greatest achilles' heel. and we are talking about capitalism moving money from this place to that place and getting the best return. part of the reason why capitalism works is because we move money from this place to that place to get the best return and some other reason. >> you have a problem with it? >> personally do i have a problem with it? you know, i would love to see a creative way for more americans to stay employed and stay involved. i don't necessarily think that i want to tell a business owner how to run their business or how to make sure that their business works, becau

greatest companies ever created, one of america's great companies now, generating hundreds of billions of dollars in profit, they employ more people in china than in america. is it not time companies like appling ma appling -- apple making the money they're doing, take the lead and bring 10% of the workforce from china back to america. i always thought if they did that, they would get such good will from the american public, they would make up the difference. >> we should let business people make nos decisions, not government. >> i'm trying to help the jobless situation in america by encouraging big companies to take the moral responsible lead by doing things that aren't necessarily 100% in the interest of their ever fattening shareholders but in the interest of national interests. >> the ever fattening shareholders are people who have pensions invested in apple and people who have iras and 401(k)s invested in apple and as those become ever fattened they have more money for retirement and kids' education and the point is i don't think demagoguing that piece is not a good thing for you necessarily to do. if you're really concerned, leave cnn and

it comes as china's economy is expanding exponentially faster than america's. more than 8% growth, china has seen over the past 12 years. hook at this chart. -- look at this chart. compare these numbers, the anemic growth we've seen in the united states over the same period. for over two years, we were even in negative territory here. washington is also now in debt to beijing for over $1 trillion, a number some believe is handicapping america when it comes to addressing our trade deficit with china. it exports far more to america than we sell to china. wendell goler following this story live from the white house today. wendell? >> reporter: this is really a get acquainted session between president obama and the vice president, on course to become china's president a little more than a year from now. it does come from a time of rising tensions. china's increased military spending. china and russia, of course, just vetoed a u.n. security council resolution on syria that really enabled as saturday to continue his -- assad to continue his crackdown. and, of course,

china. it is time to america took over -- classic one is apple. the most successful company in the world but they employ more people in china than in america. that, to me, is wrong. >> it may be wrong, but it is the way. >> why is it the way? >> it is the way because it got so expensive to hire a laborer here with the insurance, with everything. we couldn't afford it because things kept going and getting more and more expensive and then you have wal-mart come in. >> doesn't america have to work out a way of affording it. shouldn't apple, which i think is a brilliant company, but i fundamentally disagree with an american company having more people employed in china than their own country. they should be looking after their own country. >> but in their way, they are -- i'm going to say this, if they had to hire the people here to produce the ipods, ipads, whatever they are we would have to charge four to five times the amount of money they are being charged to do it now and people wouldn't buy it. >> or suze, let's address the unthinkable, or apple reduces massive profits in the national interest. >> possibly, but that isn't the american way.

i have a real problem with the fact that they employ more people in china than in america.t's wrong. i have this debate. why can't they say day we will bring back 10% of the workforce and take a hit. the american people would respond so favorably they would make the money back anyway. >> because in all businesses and politics, your greatest strength can be the greatest achilles heel. that is moving money from this place to that place and getting the best return. part of the reason why capitalism works and we are moving from this place to that place. >> do you have any problem? >> do i have a problem with it? i would love to see a creative way for more americans to stay employed and stay involved. i don't think i want to tell a business how to run their business or how to make sure their business works. ultimately the corporation, and living entity is a person and the only goal is to make sure it feeds the bottom line for the shareholders. that's the gray area. the shiny gray area that we deal with when we talk about business and cal tpitalism. >> for the focus was getting p

china? is it time that america got more insular. the most successful company in the world, apple employs more people in china than it does in america. that to me is wrong. >> that may be wrong but it is the way. >> why is it the way? >> it's the way because it got so expensive to hire a laborer here with the insurance, with everything, we couldn't afford it because things kept going and getting more and more expensive. then you have walmart come? >> this is the thing, suze, doesn't america have to work at affording it? shouldn't companies like apple, who i think is a brilliant company and use a lot of their products, but i disagree with a company having more people he employed in china. >> but in their way they are. if they had to hire the people here to produce the ipods, ipads, whatever they are, we would probably have to charge four to five times the amount of money that they are being charged to do it now. and people wouldn't buy it. >> let's address the unthinkable. or apple reduces its massive profits slightly in the national interest. >> possibly, but that isn't the american way. it's not unthinkable. i just don't think they

the greatest companies ever created, one of america's great companies now, generating hundreds of billions in profit that, they employ more people in china than they do in america. is it not time that companies like apple making the kind of money that they're doing to take a lead and say we're going to take a hit, we're going to bring for argument sake 10% of that workforce from china back to america? because i always thought if they did that, they'd get such goodwill from the american public, they'd make up the money anyway. >> i think we should let business people make those decision, not government. >> i'm trying to help the jobless situation in america by encouraging big companies to take a moral, responsible lead by doing things that aren't necessarily 100% in the interest of their ever fattening share horlsd br in the interest of the national interest. >> the ever fattening shareholders are the people who have pensions who are invested in applele, the people had have iras and 401(k)s invested in apple. they have more money for their retirement and more money for their kids' education. so my point is i don't think demagoguing that piece

china hit a record high of $295.5 billion in december. which brings us to tonight's number. zero. that's the number of cigarettes america exported to china last year. with more than20 million smokers in china, a third of the world's smokers it should be a huge market for america's tobacco giants. in addition took the largest cigarette consumer china is the world's largest cigarette producer. they grow 40% of the world's tobacco and only have to import 5%. the remaining 95% consumed domestically by cheenz people. china lacks national health care problems that comes from so much smoking. according to the world health organization, a million people die every year due to smoking related illnesses. and their economy is still only a third of the size of the united states. a superpower in the making? sure. but more powerful than the u.s. economically? i'm sorry, not really close. nosey gar. -- no cigar. >>> still outfront, the outfront five. slaughter in syria. >> at least 28 people killed, more than 200 wounded. >> system failure. >> we have been warning the police that he was capable of hurting those children. >> all this outfront in our second half. look, every day w

of coca-cola, an american icon says that the business environment in china is more friendly than the business environment in america, you know we've got a problem. so one of the things i do -- probably almost the exact opposite of what the president has done. one of the things i'd do is end the practice of what i'll call crony capitalism. what do i mean by that? when a president of the united states begins taking your money to give to his donors, that's a problem. and that changes the dynamic of a free enterprise system. so when the president says i'm going to take your money and give it to tesla and fis kerr, two new car companies which, by the way, fis kerr now builds their cars in finland, that's not good. when the president says we're going to take your money and put it in a battery company that's now out of business, that's not good. when he takes $500 million and puts it into solyndra, that's not good for american enterprise and innovation. you know this and the governor knows this as an old venture capitalist. my guess is the president wanted to encourage solar energy. he thought by taking $500 million and g

than working age. so they have a problem. japan has never had immigration, so where are they going to get it from? neither has china. we have immigration from latin america, and latins fit in here as good or better than anyone else. you know, the language, the faith, the western values, the family, it is what this country is. latins are what this country is, so that's another advantage is that we have a border with latin america, and i'll tell you, given latin america's growth and given the population growth in mexico, there is going to come a time -- maybe not in five years, but in 30 years, 40 years where mexico will say, sorry, but we don't have any more people to send, because our population isn't growing fast enough, and we need them to stay here. so, again, it's just another reason for acting now because the future is so clear. you don't have to be a soot soothe sayer to see it coming. >> we're going to open up questions to the audience. given we have such an enormous range of problems, what is the one thing you would do for immigration? >> try to foster a rational conversation about this issue, what it means to everyone, what it means to our econo

america today. that's more than china and russia combined. and over the years we filmed in various prisons across the u.s. where we witnessed overcrowding. overwhelming conditions that really lead to a dangerous environment. >> animals. >> our first ever extended stay series was shot at california's fabled san quentin prison. designed to house just over 3,000 inmates, it was home to more than 5,000. when we shot there, robert ayers was san quentin's warden. >> we are grossly overcrowded. which is just totally unacceptable for the inmates, and the staff. >> been here before? >> no. >> all right come over here and stand on the fence right there. >> the incoming population at san quentin was relentless. with staff releasing 150 inmates each week. but welcoming in 350 new ones. >> let's go, gentlemen, let's go, let's go, let's go. clear the door. >> many of them wound up in the gym. which had been converted into a huge, overflow housing unit. >> when i first walked in to the dorm at san quentin, i was taken aback by how many people were packed in

questioning what they say everybody is freak scared today because the new than old the media makes people scare them specially in america why china and russia in particular are we made to feel scared because they're very powerful that's what we think ultimately they're going to be a part of the growth picture and they need us as much as we need them so why are people scared of them why are they painted in this more of a picture it's always the same so maybe we should get to know them invite them over for coffee like that whether or not you believe the world should fear china and russia the bottom line to me is the old adage those who live in glass houses should never throw a stone. and later learn more about the magica cirque du soleil the latest spectacular shows are currently in moscow only the second city in the world to welcome at barnes and eighties fine to street artists or to sell a house of all over the years and to a unique mix of performance art and professional acrobatics and contortionists an hour's time marty's interview show spotlight on step craig collins the man who first brought the renowned company to russia and