the chinese chamber of commerce, chinese hospital, the asian contractors association, the chinatown portsmouth square rgarage, a number of business institutions, and they all felt the strong victimization of being the helpless victim of these samples. guess what? in these discussions, it was very easy to hear the helplessness people have about this program. we talked with them about the conference and about how enlightened folks in san francisco will know how to follow the pledge that fred has so descriptive limeade. if everyone -- destructively -- descriptively made. if everyone of us follows that pledge and we are able to get help to do so, that victimization of being victims of this graffiti, i think, will be a great turning point. this is why we have this conference today. at this panel, we are talking about some of the ideas we have. in those conversations with all of these chinatown grips, we decided we will be active. we are going to respond to this graffiti. we will be proactive in it. one of the ideas they came up with in talking with us -- and by the way, our office oversees 311. we