a lot of credit here to janet and chiron where we are looking on this page, in red, on the bottom, these are benefits plate payments plus implement of colours and in us -- administrative expenses. this is the cash out. actual, and then projection for the next five years on the top of the page, you see in green, the contributions we receive from both members contributions and employer contributions you can see that they are net outflows this year, it is over half a billion dollars in five years, close to $700 million ouija project and think about it and it will be $1.1 billion. the further you go, the larger area it is, but it is important to understand that they grow, and important that the net outflow gross, right now we are about 2% net outflows. and this will be increasing. in five years it will be closer to 2.5, and potentially they will be closer to three and four , we will be -- it is an aging funds and it is important for us to plan for that. what other notes that i would like to make on this slide is this net outflow is not gradual. >> or risk or other things if you scholarship o

designed for not only a legal audience or court or congress, but designed to drive tweets and tv chironsines to define the mueller report not only before it would be read, this is vital, to define the mueller report instead of it being read. barr got his results working on trump's vision to dominate this buzzy world where people don't even finish articles, let alone government reports. did that work? is it useful at this juncture to understand how this system was worked? how barr maybe outworked mueller? even for those who wish barr was not as effective as he is? consider that as all this news was breaking, just hours after mueller spoke, we got historical perspective by john meacham about how mueller's tools may have been outgunned. a point we discussed. >> mueller and his team are in a knife fight and barr and trump brought a gun to that knife fight. one of his points this morning is read what we said. and fewer people do that. >> let me build on your point and hand it back to you, because you put it very well. and another way to say it is bob mueller brought a book to a twitter fight

president trump has a very clear record of, you know, focusing on made-for-television events, for taking chirons and rewriting them, to try to say what he wants to focus on. i think going into this meeting, relationships between the democratic leaders and the president were not great. i'm anxious to have some private conversations with some of the people that were in the room as we kind of flesh out exactly how people are feeling now. but, it just has to be -- you have to think it's at a new low. because this really is kind of a remarkable -- a remarkable turn of events for some of the most powerful people in the country. i mean, nancy pelosi, you know, in line to the presidency of the united states. and somebody that, you know, the president has, it's been reported, has had respect for before. he has criticized the former republican speaker of the house, paul ryan, for not being able to deal with misfits in his own conference and said that he admired pelosi for being able to keep all of her people on the straight and narrow. so, again, if there was any hope of trying to get anything done here i