. >> i had chita rivera here not too long ago who's still dancing her age.put it, got to dance your age. >> that's a timeless artist. incredible. >> i was going to, initially, though, what it's -- how interesting it is. i don't want to say weird, bt interesting it is to sit in the audience, as i did the other night and watch you play these characters, this character who was -- my word, not yours -- so muted, so staged, so this. and the person playing him has always been like this. i mean, that's when you know you're a good actor. all of that. >> that's the challenge. you have to get into the skin of that character. >> right. yeah. you, as i said, have won, received just about every major award there is, and yet you keep pushing yourself to innovate, to create, to try different things. what's that all about? >> you don't measure life by receiving awards. >> right. >> you know, i'm flattered and i'm deeply honored, you know, to receive something like, you kno know. it is -- i'm afraid to get bored with myself. that's number one. second one -- second point. you