chloe dobbs, he dodged a bullet. eight days ago. i was more or less on air when that happened.ination and mercifully, he he survived , but he's got he survived, but he's got another bullet coming his way. and that is a younger, fitter candidate. is that a problem ? candidate. is that a problem? >> i think it could be a problem in that although kamala harris, if she does end up being the candidate, although she's got her problems and she's deeply unpopular, it may be the case that people like her just that people like herjust because she is not biden . they because she is not biden. they were so scared of biden's incompetency and his mental state that they think anyone but biden, and they prefer him to what a lot of people say is, you know, a scary, racist, fascist or orange man. i do not think that. but there are plenty of people who are who are worried about him. so when trump has come out and said, it's going to be easy for me now, even easier with kamala harris, i think that sounds a bit complacent. that may not be what he's thinking behind the scenes. he may have just said

panel paula london chloe dobbs , panel paula london chloe dobbs, louis oakley thoughts on england thisyou bothered? do you even like football? >> lewis i'm not the biggest football fan, but i want to us do well. it's a national pride thing isn't it? so you and you know i've got a 15 year old that absolutely loves football. and i want to see him happy because him unhappy is, not worth being in a for . him unhappy is, not worth being in a for. house >> i have to say, i do not watch football at all. i've tried to watch it a couple of times and it's so boring just watching a ball move up and down the field. and then occasionally, once every few hours, someone scores a goal, whereas tennis, someone you know, the score changes every few seconds. so it's actually exciting. so boring. i'm sorry. i don't understand why the english love football. >> you don't like tennis , paula? >> you don't like tennis, paula? >> you don't like tennis, paula? >> tennis would bore me to tears. i've never watched tennis, but football. >> i do watch. i don't have a team, but international games. like i was elated

stella kyriakides, candice holdsworth and chloe dobbs, not chloe dobson as i incorrectly refer to yourefer to you in the previous hour. chloe, what do you reckon of that comment? stella from nikki it took 24 years for your lot labour to win their first seat. again, not sure if it's true. probably it's true. >> took 14 years to win. to win government, i think is what she wants to say. but we still want a lot more seats. look, i'm not comparing. i'm not comparing a start up party as nigel farage likes to refer to it. but what i'm going to say is if nigel farage wants reform, if he wants his party to be taken seriously and as he says, he wants it to become the former the official opposition, within five years, he wants to be running as a contester to be prime minister. then we will have to judge reform by these standards. and these are quite high standards which reform candidates are not used to yet. no >> no caddies. >> no caddies. >> yeah, it remains to be seen. we'll see if reform can actually progress. and it's very hard to build a political movement and a political movement with lon