only as good as the records that are in it and if the records aren't getting put in because stat nd t chnge privacy laws, that's what we think needs to be done. we think the congress needs to use a carrot-and-stick approach for federal funds going back to the states to require them to get the records into the system or they don't get the federal grant fund. >> woodruff: we're using the term nix database. that is the name of the system. what about that that he needs states to comply? >> that's been great improvement into the national criminal background check system. great improvement. buwhe w kw wen youook at the president's plan, you look at the work of many elected officials who worked very hard on this. you look at the vice president and the president on this matter we know that entering more information and certainly doing a background check will save americans' lives. i'm a sportsman. i'm a shooter, i'm a hunter. i relate to this gentleman that i'm talking to tonight and i'd ask hid organization, his membership, don't we all want a background check? this is something simple we can do t