noam chomsky, can you respond? >> well, we don't really have to listen to cbs, because we can listen directly to the israeli propaganda agencies, which he's quoting. it's a shameful moment for u.s. media when it insists on being subservient to the grotesque propaganda agencies of a violent, aggressive state. as for the comment itself, the israel comment which he -- propaganda comment which he quoted, i guess maybe the best comment about that was made by the great israeli journalist amira hass, who just described it as "sadism masked as compassion." that's about the right characterization. >> i wanted to also ask you about the u.n.'s role and the u.s. -- vis-À-vis, as well, the united states. this is the u.n. high commissioner for human rights, navi pillay, criticizing the u.s. for its role in the israeli assault on gaza. >> they have not only provided the heavy weaponry, which is now being used by israel in gaza, but they've also provided almost $1 billion in providing the iron domes to protect israelis from the ro

professor noam chomsky .after the break, we wi talk , the boycott divestment and sanctions movement. ♪ [music break] >> this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. as we continue our conversation with m.i.t. professor noam chomsky, the political dissident, linguist, author who is written more than 100 bucks. one of his latest, "gaza in crisis." i interviewed him on thursday. noam, i wanted to ask you about your recent piece for the nation on israel-palestine and bds. you were critical of the effectiveness of the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement. one of the many responses came from yousef munayyer, the executive director of the jerusalem fund and its educational program, the palestine center. he wrote, quote, "chomsky's criticism of bds seems to be that it hasn't changed the power dynamic yet, and thus that it can't. there is no doubt the road ahead is a long one for bds, but there is also no doubt the movement is growing ... all other paths toward change, inc

that coming out in you have ideas. >> but what we have been successful in doing just like a gnome chomsky we have managed to create something that works so what is the best party? is the typical protest but it is not political protests party are usually hateful looking for someone to blame we would not blame anyone. end others will say the local celebrity every said the votes for him because he is the celebrity. and the most exceptional thing is that we lasted the whole term, for years years, nobody quit and they all stayed friends. it worked. that is something that is very much important now with the alternative because part of that is the alternative. ended is the universal old globe will need. let's take this negativity and channel into positive. or the clown party. [laughter] or the happy party. >> host: the party has continued the people that remained in office from that made the election. >> but that party is no more. those to continue in politics merged into a new political party that is called a bright future that is now the second or third the largest political party in because i

our guest is noam chomsky.o turn to president obama speaking at a news conference in washington. >> long-term, there has to be a cannottion that gaza sustain itself permanently, close-up from the world. and incapable of providing some jobs and economic growth for the population that live there, particularly given how dense that population is. how young that population is. we're going to have to see a for the opportunity people of gaza. i have no sympathy for, us. i have great sympathy for ordinary people who are struggling with and gaza. >> that is president obama yesterday. can you respond? for all states and all political leadership, we have to distinguish rhetoric from action. for any political leader, they can produce the lovely groundwork and rhetoric. think of stalin, whoever yowant. what we ask is, what are they doing? ort does obama suggests carry out as a means to achieve the goals of ending the u.s.-backed israeli siege come blockade ofsiege, gaza? there are things that the u.s. could do easily. i use

in 2004, gnome chomsky wrote an article making that point in response to samantha power who is now theambassador to the united nations an advocate of all sorts of interventions, she conceded and said much blood was shed in the last century by the u.s. forces in the name of because every state justifies its wars on self-defense or alter is him. chomsky is correct that any profession of noble intent is predictive and therefore carries no information. the second point, all you do is look at with u.s. does. as patrick cockburn was saying, the rest just got done feeding arms and rhenish into the israelis to kill 2000 civilians in gaza. in 2009, very clinton said president and mrs. mover wreck our close personal friends of my family. an explicit policy of the united states for the most repression of -- repressive regime is "regime continuity." -- anyone can believe >> we seem to have a little pickup in the video stream. are you back with us? >> yes. in light of all that conduct of u.s. supporting the most brutal dictators in that region, feeding arms to the israelis to kill civilians, how an

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i'm curious, individuals such as noam chomsky and pero its question the ability of institutions that exist right now to address these problems whatsoever given the level of pervasive the between them and the interconnection and the inability of any single law or politician or even branch of government to effect change on its own. i would also like to say thank you to any fbi agents here for contributing to a great cause. >> let me quickly address that. i don't think i'm quite that graham about the prospect of elected officials to effect some kind of change if they get elected. do you think the system is -- if she wants to have other democrats but with her have to make compromises and trade-offs. having someone like russ feingold in the senate to have hearings on issues and extract pull out information even though any proposal fails by 98-1 is a real benefit to those of us working outside of the system. some unlike elizabeth warren grilling banking regulatory oversight over wall street is extremely beneficial and even though it every other committee is meeting with those people and re

[laughter] even noam chomsky, my favorite mayor. [laughter] no competition. it really did go worldwide. >> the you have come now to has said champion and this sounds hard in an awful as a real champion of participatory democracy in the book is full of quotes about that you don't need to be a politician in to participate in political life that must track go wider range of people and those to criticize from the comfort of his armchair. we cannot leave the schools to the teachers are science to the scientist or democracy to politicians. >> those are great words. did i say that? [laughter] >> host: obviously what you started as was said champion of participatory democracy it is interesting you held on to that coming out and you have lots of ideas about promoting democracy to keep it going. >> and what we have been successful to do and also caught attention from others is we have managed to create a political alternative that works. political scientists in iceland very often are asked by the press what is the best? they say it is a typical kind of party but it is

people like howard zinn and chalmers johnson and noam chomsky and you have been talking about the idea that this has been coming for a very long time if you remember hillary clinton came out and talked about this new movement that the right is spread out throughout this country we ignored all that and in it i don't think it's too late but the last thing they needed tom was citizens united if you go back and look at the early days of what people like well all the all the leadership republican leadership whether it's call rove or whoever it was they were talking about the need of this influx of money into the political system then they could buy they could purchase corporate own judges they could purchase senators they could purchase governors and that's what's happened this was the last thing they needed in order for this oligarchs the work you've got to say corporations are in control and you know the numbers as well as i do if the corporation puts enough money and ninety percent ninety percent of the time they're going to win. can you imagine there even being a close race in florida w

we produced some admirable anarchists, emma goldman and alexander berkman, noam chomsky, dorothy day and others. we have produced some powerful prophetic voices out of a all pressed communities, whether that is frederick douglass or malcolm x, my friend cornel west and others. but in terms of revolutionary theorists we have almost none. paine may be the only one. in many ways he was the first intellectual in the sense that he never tied himself to political parties but it was always in opposition to power. i thought it opens the discussion with richard and cornel by highlighting some of his major strengths. ones i think we can learn from. the first would be that paine in a way that many of the four figures of the revolution were not, understood the monarchy, understood reddish power to keep income to the united states antilles 37. part of his job in "common sense" was to explain the structures, the power to the colonies who didn't understand them but even figures like benjamin franklin, up until the very last moment wanted to build with the king. and it was part of paine's job to exp

like pretty much every journalist in person from noam chomsky to everyone else you need to get paid for your work like everybody else. i don't make apologies for that as well. my duty to my sources to bring the message he wanted to bring to the world as effectively as i can. writing stories and writing books and doing films are ways for me to do that and that's what i intend to do. [applause] >> this will be the final question. >> i was hoping to ask a few rounds fired yes or no questions. rapidfire yes or no questions. >> go ahead and put some together and i will address them as best as i can. >> i don't expect you to answer it because you talked about some of the upcoming revelations and not wanting to scoop yourself, we expect to see surveillance of occupy wall street and upcoming stories? >> the reason i don't want to talk about it is because i don't -- isn't because i don't want to scoop my cell. these are hard documents to get all that and understand the meaning of and to understand how you can communicate them to the world. that means working with smart editors and smart journali

i'm curious, individuals such as noam chomsky and pero its question the ability of institutions thatexist right now to address these problems whatsoever given the level of pervasive the between them and the interconnection and the inability of any single law or politician or even branch of government to effect change on its own. i would also like to say thank you to any fbi agents here for contributing to a great cause. >> let me quickly address that. i don't think i'm quite that graham about the prospect of elected officials to effect some kind of change if they get elected. do you think the system is -- if she wants to have other democrats but with her have to make compromises and trade-offs. having someone like russ feingold in the senate to have hearings on issues and extract pull out information even though any proposal fails by 98-1 is a real benefit to those of us working outside of the system. some unlike elizabeth warren grilling banking regulatory oversight over wall street is extremely beneficial and even though it every other committee is meeting with those people and rec

>> guest: we have a series of books coming from noam chomsky. in fact, if you pan right over there, it's a series of 12 books, classics that have been either out of print or inaccessible with new introductions by mr. chomsky, new covers, resetting them all and really presenting them in a way that we think highlights the importance and the lasting legacy of his work. >> host: and they're done by issue. >> guest: yeah. they cover a range of issues, and we'll be bringing out two a month over the next, well, six months starting in the fall. >> host: and finally, what else do you want to tell us about? >> guest: i want to mention a book by tom engelhardt who's a really author of ours. he has a series of books called dispatch books and also writes his own books for us, and his third book is coming out called "shadow government," it has a forward by greg greenwald, and it's looking at the nsa and t

chomsky, new covers, resetting them all and really presenting them in a way that we think highlights the importance and the lasting legacy of his work. >> host: and they're done by issue. >> guest: yeah. they cover a range of issues, and we'll be bringing out two a month over the next, well, six months starting in the fall. >> host: and finally, what else do you want to tell us about? >> guest: i want to mention a book by tom engelhardt who's a really author of ours. he has a series of books called dispatch books and also writes his own books for us, and his third book is coming out called "shadow government," it has a forward by greg greenwald, and it's looking at the nsa and the politics of surveillance in this country. >> host: haymarket books out of chicago. haymarketbooks.org is the web site. this is booktv on c-span2. [cheers and applause] >> welcome to casper, wyoming, on booktv. the city got its start as an oil boom town. .. when crazy worst was stabbed. >> we'll take a look at the are rapidly drive and the struggles they have today. >> they came to the reservation in 18784.