his forthcoming book he co-authored with noam chomsky is titled "the climate crisis and the global greenew deal: the political economy of saving the planet." in 2018, he co-authored a paper titled "economic analysis of medicare for all." welcome back to democracy now! it is great to have you with us. we thank the team that is in the studio now with your university closing. if you can talk about what medicare for all would mean in the time of the coronavirus, and what president trump is proposing around this payroll tax cut? >> sure. wellll, you kind of characterizd everything very well with his dues from the insurance companies, wherein trump announced just last night that the insurance companies agreed toto waive all copaymements. well, that turnsns out to not en bebe trurue. that is a a minimal gesesture, t it turnsns out to not even be te because the insurance companies said they would only waive copayments for testingng and not treatment. so what we have is the exacerbation of a crisis due too thee fact the absurdity, as bernie sanders put it, the absurdity that people c cannot feel