that's what it means, that's what the words of vyacheslav chornovol mean: "walking on the edge of a knifecontinue, i will quote to you that when a criminal case was actually opened against the ukrainian herald, according to the kgb employees, the magazine posed a threat to the friendship of the soviet peoples, the national ones. politics of the ussr, the state social order, because it could raise doubts about the possibility of building communism, weaken the authority of the soviet country on international arena, we have now come to a very interesting moment, how these films, which you so, so hard to print, took pictures of, how they got to the west, where they were printed directly in the magazine, well, it was... difficult, but it was established, to lviv and to kyiv very often, sometimes several times a month the editor-in-chief of the dukla magazine, which was published in slovakia in bratislava, came, and pavlo was in contact with the union of writers, as the last name is pavlo, pavlo murashko, that is from lviv, in lviv union union of writers of ukraine and to kyiv, so we met with p

osip zinkevich, this is what he says about chornovol and the ukrainian herald.en't for chornovil, if it weren't for the disaster, later heralds, i very much doubt who would have proclaimed the independence of ukraine. so already information about events, about arrests, about repressions, about russification, was spread by dozens of copies of gazetteers, but this is already spread to millions of listeners... the voice of america was broadcast by radio liberty, other stations also broadcast something, and chornovol had a vision of the future, how to achieve independence, no one in those days, it was the 70s, believed that it would disintegrate the most powerful country in the world is the soviet union, but i doubt whether at that time, and today, that small group of people who spread, there were more and more supporters in lviv and in kyiv, and this is already after... this whole process struggle with completely different means for ukrainian independence of the state, is it true that the diaspora did not believe at first, people in the west did not believe at firs

kravchuk, then the majority of ukrainians would vote for chornovol, 74%. such are the data of kmis, the kyiv international institute of sociology, but only 13% would have voted for kravchuk. simply, let me remind you that then everything was different, then kravchuk was voted for and in the first round he became president with 62%, and chornovil gained a little more than 23%. ah... why don't we ask volodymyr piterovych if these are interesting results and what do they indicate? they testify to the fact that society is maturing, but, unfortunately, history does not know the conventional way, history does not know how, but this only indicates that in order to mature to understand, in particular , such politicians as v yacheslav chornovil, to the views he professed back in 1991 year we had to go through more than 30 years, we had to have a war with russia in order to understand why exactly those views that he professed, on which he tried to convey to the public and to gain support, they are really important, in fact, they are the only right ones, but well, it

the ukrainian herald, it is about the events of the arrests in 1965, it is the book of vyacheslav chornovolr which he received the first term of imprisonment, correct? three years, plus a second book before that was justice or relapses of terror, and for these two editions, which were published in the west, he received, as vyacheslav himself says, different systems, different evaluations in... in britain , great, he received an international journalistic award, and in his native country the soviet union received 3 years and prison terms. camp and served time, he served less than three years, because there was some kind of communist jubilee there and an amnesty was announced, and vyacheslav was arrested for this book and imprisoned in august, and somewhere in october a trial was held and he was sentenced to three years in 1967 year , we say 67th year like this, and in... in february, at the beginning of march, i don't remember the exact date, in 69th year, he stayed for one and a half years, and there he was born, he was thinking, there was time, probably, there is a lot to do, after all to

have all of us now, and you would have voted for us in 1991, we would have voted for whom, and for chornovolld have been a completely different story in this country, well, but listen, in order to understand, as historians say, where you will be tomorrow, you need to look at where you were yesterday, there we were yesterday, now we are here, and we are trying to understand what will happen to us tomorrow, and tomorrow everything will be fine with us, we will be in nato, we will be in the european union. union and we will live happily, but there is a lot of work ahead and a lot of things to change, there is a beautiful ukrainian saying, if a woman had a mustache, she would be an uncle, actually there is no history, if what is is, and with what is , we need to live and work and draw some conclusions, it is better to learn from other people's mistakes than from our own, well , we also need to learn from our own, galina kuts is already with us, a deputy of the kharkiv regional council, ms. galina, we congratulate you, ms. galina , congratulations, do you remember the referendum? in 1991, did you

witnesses and participants of this publication, this is valentina chornovil, sister of vyacheslav chornovols mykhailo kosiv, a publicist who lives in lviv and... this is a public figure, people's deputy of the first convocations, yaroslav kendzer, who is my guest today. mr. yaroslav, i congratulate you, good evening, christ is born. we praise him, and glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. today we will talk with you about the real thing, not just about vedav himself, but as i said, about a cultural phenomenon, the ukrainian herald, it was a real printed underground publication. we will continue to talk about how dangerous it was for people, for you, yes, for everyone who published it, let's start with why it is so important, why this printed edition of those times, the ukrainian herald, why it was so important, you know, it is the phenomenon of underground writings in various forms, whether written or rewritten. propagated by hand or somewhere on a typewriter, because at that time there were not so many means for reproduction, today there is a suitable technique and... it can be done quickly,

our airwaves will be about war, mobilization and anticipation of war in an interview with tetyana chornovol, senior lieutenant of the armed forces of ukraine and the commander of the anti-tank platoon, our colleague khrystyna yatskiv spoke with her, thank you for being with us, we will be back on the air tomorrow at 7:10 and thank you for 54,000 or so. added to our account today, but don't stop, add more hryvnias, now we have uah 817.55 in our account, and we need uah 1,220,000 for battery stations for our military, see you tomorrow, pa-pa! attention, an incredible novelty from razpak tv. super warm and very comfortable alaska stayle boots. perfect fit, water-repellent material and a feeling of warmth even in 30-degree frost. alaska stayle boots have a versatile design and practical black color, so they will suit both men and women. sizes from 36 to 46. therefore, take two pairs at once. to myself and my husband. flowing lightning will ensure a perfect fit even on the widest leg. insulation. it perfectly retains heat and wicks away moisture, and the top is made of waterproof and wear-resist

conversation in december 2023, and i am happy to welcome a guest of our updated studio, this is tetyana chornovol, journalist, politician, military, now, tanya, congratulations, i am very happy to see , congratulations, and i am so happy to be here, because i remembered, i was here for the last time before the war, i did my last broadcast, i know. actually wanted to start, because this is a very revealing story, about who said what, who thought, who was ready? february 5 , 2023, this is your last author program on espresso, which referred to the tank columns that will go to kyiv, yes, yes, yes, i was already in military uniform then, and they laughed at me, although in fact i was already then preparing positions for the sogna near kiev, that is, when i was doing this program , i drove just in the direction of ivankov and was looking for a place... i will place a sugna, that is, there were two, two, two birds with one stone. so, consider that today we have not an investigation, but intelligence. i will start by saying that the west has been warning the ukrainian authorities for a long time that it

the full-scale invasion in the zhytomyr region , rockets were saved to the thigh, and today tanya chornovolwho has a lot of russian scrap metal on her account, is learning to fly an fpv drone, do you know why? and there are no rockets to stugna. and tell me, please, what happened to kb luch? did they die? no, they did not die, but they are being buried, who is burying them? and let's remember. the first audit service together with the sbi, it’s all about the thighs, it’s all about the missile program, it’s all about neptune, and husiv was still celebrating, the late husiv, well, the deceased, i mean, as a politician, not as a person, as a person, still alive, that 's how he reported last year that the saksan and borysfen missile systems were ready, there was almost a little left, it turned out, already a year no, and there the horse was not lying down compared to what was there. relatively speaking, as of the 18th year, they buried everything, and now they tell us that we have to do it, and what did you think about for two years, mr. supreme commander, i can ask him only one question, uncle

tetyana chornovol, journalist, politician, military. she was with us in this conversation. thanks to everyone who joined in viewing this important and valuable, in fact, for me personally, i hope for you too interview. thanks to all colleagues who made this possible. tanya, thank you, and see you somewhere, in the realities of combat, and of course, here in our studios. in our studio with you actually , thank you for your journalistic work, which is still such a powerful background for us, thank you for your work, because i understand how difficult it is to hold freedom of speech in our country now, it is difficult to stand on these values throne, throne, front, whoever calls it, economic, informational, it really has no meaning compared to what is very important, because journalism in principle is practically destroyed in this country, it is very lacking. journalism at the front, you know that journalists are not allowed to go to the front, there is a great lack of coverage of the war, there is a great lack of it, because this is this war, in which we will teach future gen

generation, which in principle is to blame for this war, must also go through the war, thank you, tatyana chornovoljournalist, politician, military was with us in this conversation, thank you to everyone who joined in watching this important and... valuable in fact, for me personally, i hope for you too interview. thanks to all colleagues who made this possible. tanya, thank you and see you, somewhere in the realities of hostilities, and of course, here in our studios, in our studio with you in fact, thank you for your journalistic work, which is still so powerful for us background thank you for your work, because i understand how difficult it is to hold freedom of speech in our country now. the throne, the front , what do you call it, economic, informational, it really does not matter, compared to what you are doing now, it matters very much, because journalism in principle is practically destroyed in this country, all journalism is sorely lacking at the front, you know, journalists are not allowed to go to the front, there is a great lack of coverage of the war, there is a great lack of this, bec