but chris and i have talked about this, and i want to ask him publicly, chris, chris makes the recommendation that a president usually gets in the first year or two bites at the apple. and typically presidents have gone with partizan legislation first because their fan base has just gotten them elected and they want to reward them. and then they tack back and they get centrist legislation. so president clinton got some tax that he wanted to tack back and gotten after president bush got some tax cuts that he wanted, he tacked back and got no child left behind. and you argue opposite. you say, actually go with the president. biden got a partizan covid bill through and then tacked back and got infrastructure and you argue the opposite. go first and then go partizan explain for us a little bit so to bits but on the reality of the congress that you inherit but the likely reality which is why the recommendation is there is is that we're going to have a very tight congress and so the first question i said why don't we do an fdr the 100 day legislation in the blitz? why can't we have that again? well

>> chris: it is strange. >> stephen: a weird switch and a short period of time. >> chris: very weirdthe american leftist going to soviet russia to report back on how much better things are almost like he was doing a bit like potemkin village. there's two reasons i think. one is transactional. vladimir putin engineered criminal sabotage to help get donald trump elected in 2016 and donald trump knows that and let them reboot and knows that under the republican party knows that. they would like his help again in 2024. donald trump wants him to help them out. the ideological reason is that as the republican party and conservative movement radicalize is against democracy they are increasingly looking for foreign models of right-wing authoritarianism that is alluring or attractive to them. and replacement of our traditions here. >> stephen: so orban. >> chris: exactly. orban and putin. they are souring on democracy. they are souring on the project, all of us together choosing collectively what we do and is a sour on that and radicalize against that very notion, they look for models elsewhe

and it's chris in belfast. just think it's absolutely fabulous to see you on this — in a way, you two created the newscast. there were others involved. there were — katya and adam are dearfriends, yes. does it all come back to you? because brexit was one of the big dividing lines in the whole of northern ireland. that's why you're there, chris. yeah, true. yeah, no, absolutely. and actually, the last couple of days covering this story here and then in london before it did take me back, in fact, at one point i was talking to katya on the television and it really took me back to the brexit days of trying to, particularly as far as the northern ireland element of the story is concerned, untangle — which is what all of this has been about — the complexities of northern ireland politics and the complexities of brexit. throw those two together and the spaghetti is not it. and the spaghetti is knotted. all those happy hours we spent talking about phytosanitary regulations, even if that is how you pronounce it now. and

chris, let's start with you to try and answer chris's questions.hat a recession means _ answer chris's questions. what a recession means is _ answer chris's questions. what a recession means is if _ answer chris's questions. what a recession means is if you - answer chris's questions. what a recession means is if you take i answer chris's questions. what a l recession means is if you take the total amount produced by firms and individuals in the uk, or the same thing, the total amount spent on goods and services produced in the uk, then over a six—month period, that has fallen. it's not the best measure of how the economy is doing but it's the best known and are best understood measure of how the economy is doing. the effects of it means that it puts a lot of pressure on public services because tax revenues become stagnated, it puts pressure on household because real wages tend not to grow, so normally an economy grows by about 2% a year, which is about roughly zero point 5% a quarter. so if it is fallen by a negative amount, then clearly the econo

>> chris, good day to you. so boeing, late yesterday, put out an e-mail saying one of its critical suppliers provided an update that it had discovered inappropriately drilled holes in the fuselage. now, the fuselage of course is produced by spirit aerosystems in wichita. that's essentially the tube. the plane itself, they deliver the tube to boeing, boeing creates a plane out of it. misdrilled holes. this coming a month after we have the midair blowout involving the door plug on the 737 max 9 over portland when the side of the plane came off. a short time ago, the faa, deputy administrator provided an update on the fact that now there's a problem with the fuselage and newly discovered holes drilled inappropriately in the fuselage. take a listen. >> boeing let us know that there was an issue with two holes drilled for a window frame on some undelivered 737 max aircraft, and we're handling the issue through our continued operational safety process. and we'll ensure that those airplanes meet all safety standards b

chris, you are a marvellous man, please _ chris, you are a marvellous man, please come _ chris, you arehat to you both. work. thank you, nice to chat to you both- great — work. thank you, nice to chat to you both- great to _ work. thank you, nice to chat to you both. great to have _ work. thank you, nice to chat to you both. great to have you. _ good afternoon. mr view across the scottish mountains, a lot of rain carried on by this conveyor belt of cloud stretching across the atlantic sea and you can imagine we will see quite a bit of rain hence the warnings that are out across western and southern parts of scotland. look how the rain builds up in the next 48 hours. we could see even more than 120 millimetres on the very tops of the mountain so clearly concerned for flooding. tops of the mountain so clearly concerned forflooding. rain stretches east of the grampians into northern ireland and northern england and further south we have quite a bit of cloud, gusty wind compared with yesterday. that means we have some drizzle over the hills and around the coasts as well and just a few break

you in this second hour of "chris jansing reports." at this hour, president biden is participating in one of the most solemn duties of his office today, the dignified transfer of the remains of three american soldiers killed in a drone strike in jordan. the powerful video expected to come in any moment now. >>> california is expected to be drenched in historic rainfall this weekend with concerns over life threatening flash floods. how the west coast is preparing after already being pounded by rain earlier this week. this driver filmed himself navigating rushing waters on a flooded freeway. >>> plus, the block buster january jobs report smashing expectations. what it means for you and what it says about the state of the economy. >>> also, the chilling new details about the son accused of decapitating his father in pennsylvania and putting it on you tube. that's coming up. >>> our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. i want to start in delaware where the dignified transfer of three fallen service members is no

chris jansing my friend has "chris jansing reports" right now. >>> good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. blackmailed over her son's burial. one week after alexei navalny was found dead in a russian prison, his mother is now in a very public fight with putin over his body. does it suggest the russian president isn't really worried about those brand new u.s. sanctions? >>> plus, alabama's chief justice with a higher authority in mind when he ruled frozen embryos are people. how his comments about god and the bible are raising concerns about the separation of church and state. >>> and just 25 worked, that's all it took for judge arthur engoron to reject donald trump's desperate plea to stave off that enormous civil judgment. $355 million plus interest that's already 100 million and counting. we start in russia, on a day it was hit with more than 500 u.s. sanctions, the most since the war began, the focus for vladimir putin and his allies is clearly domestic, not international politics. worried about russia's ongoing signs of respect and grief following t

but, chris, the u.s.emain by israel's side. >> gabe gutierrez, thank you for that. >>> meantime, facing extremely low supplies and high costs, a group of women inside gaza have opened up a baby diaper factory. the workers have to manually power the sewing machine to make each individual diaper because there's no electricity there. one of the 19 employees at the factory tells our nbc news team that she is sick wit cancer, this woman, and that her jobs help provide food for her family. she says the project will ease the suffering a lot of the displaced people feel. a u.n. official has estimated that one baby is born in that war zone every ten minutes. >>> a new move by the fda with lifesaving implications for 17 million americans living with severe food allergies. we'll explain with our medical expert next. >>> later, is it a rare flop, why many consumers who shelled out nearly 4 grand for the revolutionary apple vision pro are already done with them. stay with us. y done with them stay with us there are so

>> chris, first of all, thank you for having me. it's important, to your point, not to speculate or talk about things we do not know. having said that, i'm taking this interview from four walls of an icu. what we often do when we're caring for surgical patients that might be coming in for procedure, just like king charles did for removal or for treatment of his prostate enlargement is we look at basic labs. chris, you and i talk about -- weave been talking about medical diagnostics for the last five years. some of those basic labs include what do your blood levels look like, your immune fighting cells? what about the -- just how many red blood cells you have in your body. these basic labs, a complete blood cell count is a very common lab we get pre surgery or pre procedure. to avoid speculation, these basic labs might have heralded a problem maybe in king charles' blood that could have suggested maybe there might have been a second form of cancer. that is likely a possibility. there are basic screening labs to make sure there's no o

chris. >> monumental, you might say.when that happens in tel aviv, and we'll let folks know if news is made. raf, thank you so much for that. >>> back here at home, the department of education is investigating harvard university over whether it failed to protect palestinian, muslim and arab students from harassment, threats and intimidation. it was sparked by a complaint from the muslim legal fund which described how students were called terrorists for wearing traditional palestinian scarves. they also said that students were chased, spat at, stopped and hounded by doxxing trucks. nbc news reached out to harvard. a spokesperson did not comment on the complaint, instead directed us to a list of student resources they offer instead. >>> still to come, could a major lack of enthusiasm for both biden and trump help deliver a big boost to a third party candidate? nbc news spoke to one big name who's running who says he's not bowing out. that's next. all my stresses ju. i hear that. this bad boy can fix anything. yep, tough da

"chris jansing reports" starts right now. ♪♪ >>> good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquartersnew york city. can the president turn his worst issue into a winning one? on the heels of tom suozzi's big win in new york, biden is now vowing to lean into the congressman-elect's immigration strategy, tried to flip the script on his republican foes, but can that work when polls show him trailing trump on the issue by more than 30 points. >>> and the impeachment of dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas squeaks through the house. now the senate is required to hold a trial. how much political oxygen will that take up before the senate puts the whole thing on ice? >>> when it comes to changing gun laws, pleas from survivors have not moved the needle, but what if those pleas came from those who didn't survive? a new campaign using ai to allow people killed in mass shootings to lobby lawmakers on capitol hill. my conversation with david hog, a survivor of parkland and one of the people behind the effort coming up. >>> but we start with house republicans one seat weaker while democrats are one s

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>> yeah, absolutely, chris.st of all, that was a pretty pathetic, quote unquote defense coming from tim scott who's docking for the trump vice president pick, assuming that trump is not the nominee. this is what these guys do, go out there and say putin is terrible, he's a dictator, we must come condemn him, and trump is the guy to do it. trump is saying what he would do if he were president, which is to cozy up to vladimir putin, and by the way, he has made it very clear, chris, that he would rule like a dictator here in the united states if he gets reelected president. they're trying to have it both ways. it's a silly thing they have been doing since trump was the nominee in 2016. once this becomes a binary race, the choice is going to become more and more clear to the american people that president biden who has been handling a series of complicated foreign policy challenge and handling them well, when you see the contrast to the erratic gop nominee who is donald trump, i think the american people are going t

>> it's so bad, chris.dd something to what matthew just said, because we have to remember what it was like during the trump administration. my republican friends who worked in the trump administration at various levels, at senior levels, told me that president trump had the intention of taking us out of nato. he wasn't joking. this sir story, another president of another country, of course, is not going to call him sir. of course he made up the story. but the point is not the made-up story. the point is what his intent is. he wants to take us out of nato. that's what my republican colleagues fear. that's why senator rubio and other senators authored that legislation that made sure that congress would have a role in it. they were petrified at the time. so this is -- getting back to your question, this is incredibly important that we understand how dangerous it is. vladimir putin tomorrow could try to send little green men into the baltics, into lithuania. he could lob another missile into poland and pretend

>> reporter: hi there, chris. good afternoon. what we heard from white house national security spokesperson john kirby who said just a few moments ago that the biden administration is watching this case very closely, but it is limited in what it can say due to privacy concerns. but as you said, chris, we're now hearing from the boyfriend of the duel national who was arrested in russia. her boyfriend says they spent new year's together in turkey. he flew back to the united states. she flew to russia. and she had her cell phone confiscated when she got to russia. she was then released and for several weeks, she communicated with him through her mother's cell phone, until january 27th. that's when he last heard from her. take a listen to what he had to say about what happened next! >> it was nighttime. i said, okay, i'll speak to you tomorrow because i'm going to go to bed, and that was the last we spoke. that morning when i reached out, hello, good morning, and no reply, and then a couple of hours later, immediately i could underst

chris: welcome back to our nbc bay area "responds" special. i'm consumer investigator chris chmura. next, we are responding to this south bay couple. >>> welcome back to r e tonbc o area responds especial. next, we are responding to the south bay couple. they had a negative experience, an expensive experience too, jumpstarting their van. they were so charged up, they personally asked me for help. >> oh, listen to you! >> nbc bay area and to limit occluding. >> i'm so happy to be able to take one home. >> we helped rescue dozens of pets, +2 toyota owners. >> that's david gordon. he asked for my help because he was spinning his wheels with aaa roadside assistance. it's tow trucks often respond roadside, but david actually needed help. >> the van was right here. >> parked in his own garage. david and his wife, shelley, were adding an accessory. >> we were trying to install a dash cam. >> tweaking that new dash cam to a lot of battery power. >> it's hard to get the cameras adopted right so we could open the back window and then check in again and drain the battery. >> a dead battery. aa

"chris jansing reports" starts right now. ♪♪ >>> good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquartersnew york city. today special counsel jack smith isn't just squaring off against donald trump. he's also fighting the calendar and the supreme court. now that the justices have decided to take on presidential immunity, smith's hopes of getting trump to trial for election interference before he's the nominee almost certainly gone. before the rnc convention, unlikely there ta. so what happens now? >>> plus, a horrific tragedy. at least 100 killed according to the health ministry, locals blame israeli forces for opening fire. what are the implications for the wider war, and what about the hostage deal that president biden had suggested could be just days away? >>> and the political showdown playing out in texas today over the one issue that voters say rises above all others. can president biden and former president trump, two men who have had their shot at fixing the border before, convince voters they can fix it now? >>> but we start with donald trump's legal and political calendar being

>> chris, isn't that always the question?been around for two and a half decades and congress has not been able to regulate anything when it comes to that. however, having parents in the room yesterday clad in black, holding the photos of the children who died at the hands of social media they say they think this is time for change, and that momentum is what's going to make it happen. i talked to some of those parents again this morning because they're still here using their own time, their own money, taking off from work, trying to get this to happen. trying to get legislation across the finish line. the specific bill they want, the kids online safety act. they say it's the most comprehensive bill. it would cover every issue from cyber bullying, to sextortion, to viral challenges that change the lives of their kids. i talked to the bipartisan duo behind that legislation. here's what they said. >> this time really feels different. largely because of the parents who have mobilized to come here with the courage and stroent tell

♪♪ >>> good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city.was a steady diet of russian lies from a man the feds thought they could trust. new revelations about alexander smirnov, the former fbi informant whose claims about the bidens are now at the heart of the president's impeachment inquiry. but now that the fbi says russia was actually behind the fabricated stories, why are republicans still buying it? >>> plus, even as we're learning new details about russia's attempts to meddle in the november elections, donald trump is staying silent on vladimir putin's misdeeds, instead he's criticizing his own country for going communist. will the presidential race turn into a referendum about where the two candidates stand when it comes to the kremlin? >>> and according to the old adage, cash is king, especially in politics, but does this still hold true this year? maybe not for trump. new numbers show the former president spending more than he raised last month, but he's still running away with the nomination. so what gives? a lot to get to. we star

this is my point, chris. his point was that if a political— my point, chris.s country cannot make up its mind _ govern this country cannot make up its mind about really important issues, — its mind about really important issues, including how they would run the economy, then they risk all the progress _ the economy, then they risk all the progress we have made. gf the economy, then they risk all the progress we have made. so ministers making the point there that there are legitimate questions for the labour leader to answer. it will be interesting to see how long that online holds with real criticism swirling around the prime are now about notjust being potentially bit insensitive, but also being transphobic, which he strongly denies.— also being transphobic, which he strongly denies. peter, thank you very much- _ strongly denies. peter, thank you very much. that _ strongly denies. peter, thank you very much. that brings _ strongly denies. peter, thank you very much. that brings us - strongly denies. peter, thank you very much. that brings us to - strongly den

>> reporter: hey, chris.ost here because i think it's important the context that just last night donald trump on a stage, campaign stage celebrated fact that he nominated three supreme court justices to the bench. he has made it very clear that he supported the overturning of roe v. wade, celebrated that he was responsible for it, and donald trump has also not been clear on whether he'd support a federal abortion ban or not or exactly what policy and even at the state level he would support, and so that's where questions were around his position on ivf, especially on the back of the alabama supreme court's decision. i want to let you look at the statement that came out in the last few moments quote, under my leadership the republican party will always support the creation of strong thriving, healthy families. we want to make it easier for mothers and fathers to have babies, not harder. that includes supporting the availability of fertility treatments like ivf in every state of american. like the overwhelming

chris, keep in mind, that was just part one. the next storm system, another atmospheric river set to be in the region sometime sunday into monday. right now, we are getting a little break from the rain and those heavy -- those wind gusts, but right now, southern california is getting pounded with the rain, so more to come, chris. >> the satellite images are crazy. kathy park, thank you so much. >>> well, right now, a far right group is heading to the southern border. nbc's ryan reilly is reporting on this. organizers of this group stress nonviolence, but of course not all members are on board. what do we know about this, ryan? >> reporter: yeah, i think, you know, some of the leaders here are definitely into conspiratorial ideas, and so you've definitely had some comments on social media that we have been tracking that sort of support some sort of violent rhetoric including bringing up civil war, and obviously it's a very tense situation on the border right now. leaders here are not actually saying they're going to go directly t

>> chris, good afternoon to you. at this hour, we don't know exactly how the driver managed to crash into the emergency room. all authorities are telling us is that this was not intentional, but we are standing by for a press conference later on this afternoon, so hopefully we'll get a new update there. but this all unfolded, the chaos unfolded 5:30 last night, that's when the initial calls came in of a car crashing into the emergency room entrance of the north austin hospital behind me. and we're told that five people were injured. one person was killed. the fatality being the driver. and chris, keep in mind, this is a very busy hospital, and several people were inside the waiting room at the time of the crash. in fact, some people managed to pull out their phones and capture the aftermath, and one witness described the chaos. take a listen. >> i had been there, you know, a few hours earlier, just standing in the very spot where the accident happened. and i just quickly saw that there was a woman that was very close

chris. out independently altogether. chris, i was asking — out independently altogether.dently altogether. chris, i was asking my colleagues, - out independently altogether. chris, i was asking my colleagues, and - out independently altogether. chris, i was asking my colleagues, and we were wondering, who are usually the main culprits and what kind of areas might you have this problem in the uk? it might you have this problem in the uk? , ., , ., ., might you have this problem in the uk? ., ., , ., ., uk? it is a bit of a weird situation in the uk because _ uk? it is a bit of a weird situation in the uk because it _ uk? it is a bit of a weird situation in the uk because it is _ uk? it is a bit of a weird situation j in the uk because it is specifically illegal to drive up the pavement everywhere, in most parts of the uk but london has had a law since the 70s in scotland has this law now but in the rest of the country in most parts it is not specifically illegal to park. so it does happen across the country. there is a busy different reasons why. some roads were simply not

it's chris's art. they're really sells the story to these kids and make them realize, wait a minute, these aren't the stories of famous people. they're drawn just like kids. they're drawn just like us. these are the famous stories of people that are just like me. brad meltzer open that book up. let's see what it looks like on the inside. yeah. so we always ask group, are you shooting for here. yeah. so in i am mr. rogers again we go to about four years old to about 12 years old. and what i love about the books is, you know, here he is. here's mr. rogers. wh hirlack policeman because he reads stories about how, you know what, we'e're not letting blacks swimming. swimming pools are white people are swimming. and so mr. rogers ayers is black policeman. and, you know, and francois, the guy who plays him on tv, he's surprised. he says, why did you hire me? i'm a black man. why did you hire me to play a policeman? mr. rogers says to him, well, i think kids need good role models and i want them to see you. mr

>> reporter: hey there, chris, good afternoon to you. well, i have been hearing some real heartbreaking stories of infertility and how a lot of these women, the only option to expand their families is to go through ivf, and obviously with this recent ruling from the state supreme court, things are just in limbo. the rally wrapped up earlier this morning but dozens, in fact, hundreds of ivf patients, providers, advocates actually walked into the state house earlier today, sat down with these lawmakers, tried to get one on one with them so that they understand exactly the ivf process and exactly what they're going through. here's that message. take a listen. >> i have a beautiful baby boy born through ivf and through the talented, talented doctors in this state so i'm here today for myself and for other women and families but especially for the doctors. i want to make sure that they are offered the ability to continue to do their job, and help families everywhere to create that family that they want. >> reporter: and, chris, we also heard

thank you, i chris. i'm stunned. i don't know how to chris. i'm stunned.s. i'm stunned. idon't know how to reply to— chris. i'm stunned. i don't know how to reply to this corrupt, mythical narrative — to reply to this corrupt, mythical narrative that raffi is promoting. 0f narrative that raffi is promoting. of course — narrative that raffi is promoting. of course every state has a right to defend _ of course every state has a right to defend itself. that's normal. also, those _ defend itself. that's normal. also, those that— defend itself. that's normal. also, those that are occupying also have the right _ those that are occupying also have the right to resist. —— those that are occupied. please let me finish. they— are occupied. please let me finish. they have — are occupied. please let me finish. they have been illegally occupied for 75 _ they have been illegally occupied for 75 years. you say israel moved out of— for 75 years. you say israel moved out of gaza — for 75 years. you say israel moved out of gaza in 2005. absolutely. but it controlled its bor

>> reporter: hi there, chris. outside of trump's base of support, there's a lot of frustration over the options that they're seeing. let's step back a little bit. we're not here in kent county just because nikki haley had to stop in grand rapids earlier today. this is a county that you have seen trends that have been mirrored across the country. this is a republican -- used to be a republican stronghold, a reliable republican county here in michigan. in 2016, you saw donald trump win it by just 3 percentage points and then 2020, joe biden flipped it, and also flipped the state of michigan. as nikki haley is failing to stop trump's momentum in early primary caucus states. many people say they are viewing this already in a general election context, and they're not happy about what they're hearing. listen to what they have been telling you. >> >> scared and said. i don't feel comfortable picking joe biden, but also i don't feel picking trump either. >> i think they're too old and out of touch. at this point, it's mor

it's chris's art. they're really sells the story to these kids and make them realize, wait a minute, these aren't the stories of famous people. they're drawn just like kids. they're drawn just like us. these are the famous stories of people that are just like me. brad meltzer open that book up. let's see what it looks like on the inside. yeah. so we always ask group, are you shooting for here. yeah. so in i am mr. rogers again we go to about four years old to about 12 years old. and what i love about the books is, you know, here he is. here'roge. when he hires a black policeman because he reads storiut younow what, we're we're not letting blacks swimming. swimming pools are white people are swimming. and so mr. rogers ayers is black policeman. and, you know, and francois, the guy who plays him on tv, he's surprised. he says, why did you hire me? i'm a black man. why did you hire me to play a policeman? mr. rogers says to him, well, i think kids need good role models and i want them to see you. mr. roge

chris. >> all right. so to the man who knows a little more than most people about these arguments, we always ask people to parse what you hear. you can always be surprised, right? nobody's going to say they know with certainty what the supreme court was going to do. although there does seem to be a unanimity of opinion that there is skepticism on the part of these justices. that's what we heard from them. if that is the case, do you think this was not argued well on the part of the colorado plaintiffs? did they not have such a great case to begin with? what did you hear today, chuck? >> well, a couple of things. first of all, i think mr. trump's lawyer argued very well. and i don't mean to take anything away from the other lawyer, the lawyer for the colorado voters, but jonathan mitchell, mr. trump's lawyer, did a fine job, conceding points where he had to, acknowledging deficits or defects in his argument where he had to. but with that said, the judges or the justices in this case often know what they're

and also in london, chris rose, the director of a most trusted creation of human rights organization that has a long history of campaigning for protest in human rights. gentlemen, i will welcome to you o andrew. let's start with you. should israel be bought from international competition, or does your wife a secretary general have a point when he says that as well as war and gas in the way it began, cannot be compared to russia's invasion of ukraine. well, it's an absurdity from you. a for festivals, because what we're seeing is massive violations of international law, both in the ukraine by russia and quint obviously in in garza by israel. in fact, what we also have in the case of gaza is the international court of justice suggesting the best possible risk. in other words, freedom of fallacy, evidence that israel is committing genocide. so i think that that was disingenuous and best boss. somebody who was involved in the struggle against the pots a to themselves. i forget who says i'm the nelson mandela is nancy m. p. the support of white cock council on academic by cock moving clos

chris quickly for 3 points. first of a lot of people do not see a spending deteriorating after the election. we do that, do not see any basis for that whatsoever. secondly, it does it. 85 percent of russia's trade is. now, conductors encourages or breaks countries, which includes the u, a 0 as, as, as well as the chinese one. so yes is mostly substantially away from our daughter and you're starting is i was actually as in the regions last week, i do not for the people that when i think it's the good thing is that the news doesn't wait for anyone. and that's coming up next i told just just briefly yes, i mean actually just being a great re distribution of money to the russian provinces of that doing much better than the industrials and, and uh no, i mean the, the will, will continue and spending on the industrial economy will continue after the elections. this is not a political business for the account. okay, just a boy or a gentleman that we must end it, but he thinks indeed uh too old for taking punch in the p