lgb for trump it is chris barron. with recent editor at large and cohost of the award-winning fifth column podcast on its 50th year, matt welch forgot political analysts formal congressional press secretary rochelle ritchie is back. welcome everyone. >> hi kennedy. before chris i will start with you. this bill is 5593 pages. how on earth are we expected to know exactly what is in their? >> we are not and that is the whole purpose per defect is look we have industries that have been shut down by the government during covid. we ought to be doing something to assist those industries. the restaurant industry, the fitness industry, and those people got absolutely nothing out of this covid relief bill. meanwhile the airline industry that was struggling before because they had a bad business model is back for another handout. they get billions of dollars. it's absolutely unbelievable to me that we have industries that are being physically barred from doing their job. they're not asking for a handou handout. restaurants are n

the party panel has return, chris barron, katherine mangu-ward, and michael gordon.ll start with you from a liberty perspective produce anything to like about xavier becerra? we have had our eye on them for a while paid but like to keep track things in california we are based. and i've got to say, we are not fans. i don't necessary agree with tom cotton. were they kinda put put the emphasis. but among other things tend you to fight the war on drugs but after court california agreed that drugs could win. that is just something is really worth keeping in mind it has potential role at hss. he is really prolactin. not only that his methodology in california is worth keeping an eye on. he is incredibly litigious. he fights stuff out in the courts. that is an attribute in an hhs secretary that really worries me. i don't think that is the right venue for this battle to be fought. kennedy: yes. are we going to the name on some of those supreme court cases? michael gordon? for smelliest litigious because he is the attorney general the largest state of the country so he overse

then i think how the president got coronavirus, the first lady got coronavirus, barron trump had covid and no wake-up call. chris christie spent days in the hospital, herman cain died and last night we see the president holding another large rally, many people maskless, in georgia, where we know cases are surging. what would you say to him? >> there's a few things i would say to president trump if i had the opportunity. one is, you know, one of the really difficult things about this virus, one of the things that has led to it spreading so quickly is that it is true that many people who catch it, do okay. they feel horrible for a week or two and then they do get better. but the trouble is you can't completely predict who's going to get worse. we've seen time after time where social gatherings or things like campaign rallies have led to dozens or hundreds of infections and deaths. there was that wedding in maine this summer that ended up with 177 related infections and 7 deaths from folks that didn't attend the wedding. if i could say to president trump it would be, first, respect your supporters by knowing when y