chris baer rob. we have a legal -- barron.egal system in this country, and it works -- kennedy: sometimes. sometimes it doesn't. >> it's not perfect, but one of the things that makes america great, it makes us different than other countries and, by the way, i just want to say, you know, mike talked about this domestic violence situation. this is, honestly, it's a thing that disturbed me the most about it, the number of people who came out afterwards and talked about how toxic this relationship was. and i know that all of us, our instinct is when we see something like that to look away or not want to get involved. but the truth is if you know somebody who is in one of these relationships, if somebody you love is in one of these toxic relationships, talk to them, try to help -- kennedy: that is so easy to say, but the relationship between an abuser and someone they're abusing is so incredibly complex. those views are so beaten down and conditioned over a long period of time, and there's such codependency there that anyone who in