. >> at the moment that we speak, we have two books on hand very much on hand, chris buckley's book and your book here. and chris buckley's back has now been on the bestseller list for maybe four weeks or whatever it's been out. >> i haven't looked. >> well in each case -- [laughter] >> seriously, in each case, we have two brilliant writers, writing about the great man, at least the current great man, and journalistically speaking, many of interviews on television and other media for chris' book have in my view, and my wife's and my son's view come out rather negatively on bill. why? because the excerpts in journalism so often are just picking out the negativities and coming along. there's danger there, and i'm saying to you -- i read only one review of your book coming out, and it had some emphasis on the negative. accent wait the positive was a song from world war ii, and one must importantly, as one reviewer said of chris' book, read at least the raft last half where amounts how much bill was, my word, titan, and not that we have to be in awe, but in interesting him, let's not go wit

. >> at the moment that we speak, we have 2 book very much on hand, chris buckley's book has been on the best-seller list for weeks. >> i haven't looked. >> seriously, in each case, we have 2 brilliant writers writing about the great man, the current man. journalistically speaking, many of the interviews that have been on television and other media for chris's book, have, in my view, come out rather negatively on film, because the excerpts so often -- there is danger. i only read one review of your book coming about and it had some emphasis on the-. accentuate the positive was a song from world war ii. as one reviewer said, chris's book, the last half where he acknowledges how much bill was tight. not that we have to be, but in understanding, let's not go with the journalism book, and so on, but i just want to remind us, i would like to say that you and chris are brilliant bookends in acknowledging bill's greatness. >> thank you for that complement. journalists do what they do. i know what they do, in the right circumstances i'd do it myself. but also, i found this when writing about

. >> next question is from chris buckley, please go ahead. >> a quick question about the program cuts. you talked about in 2009 we have the chart that showed that higher education and k. 312 and a heisman of cuts in terms of the most states making cuts, do you have numbers in terms of dollar figures that show which areas by a dollar figure out the biggest cuts across all states? >> we did not specifically asked that in this report, we just asked if they did a particular cut to that area in that particular topic area. >> do you know generally the education sectors when compared to other areas? in terms of dollars generally. >> my guess is and from what we have heard is you primarily will see that in the higher education area to the extent it was k-12 and a lot has been made up by the recovery act funds and, of course, there are requirements not to allow for further declines based on previous levels, so to the extent to see that it would be primarily concerned higher education areas but again there are maintenance of effort requirements for higher education also so my guess is the perce

. >> the next question is from chris buckley from enr. please go ahead. >> yeah, a quick question about the program cut. you talked about in a 09 we had the chart that showed that higher education and k-12 had the highest amount of cuts in terms of the most making cuts in those areas. do you have any numbers in terms of dollar figures tell what shall which areas by the dollar figures got the biggest cuts? >> we didn't specifically ask that in this report. we just asked if they did a particular cut to that syria, to that particular topic area. >> but do you know generally how, say the education sectors would compare to other areas? >> in terms of dollars generally? >> am i guess, and we've heard you primarily will see that in the higher education area to the extent it was bennett in what has been made up by the recovery act fund and of course they are requirements not to allow for further declines based on previous levels. so, to the extent you would see that, it would be primarily in certain higher education levels. but there are a mainte

. >> operator: our next question is from chris buckley from enr. please go ahead. >> caller: a quick question about the program cut you had talked about in 2009, we have a chart that showed that higher education and k-12 had the highest amount that in terms of the most date making cuts in those areas. do you have any numbers in terms of dollar figures that would show which areas by dollar figure got the biggest cuts across all states? >> we didn't specifically ask that in this report. we just asked them if they get a particular cut to that area, to that particular topic area. >> caller: would you know generally how the education secretary's would compare to other areas? in terms of dollars and generally. >> my guess, and promote we have heard is you primarily will see that in the higher education area. to the extent it was k-12, a lot have been made up from the recovery act funds. and of course, there are requirements and not to allow for further declines based on previous levels. so to the extent you would see that, it would be primarily in certai

the second book is chris buckley losing mom and pop. we have all heard a little about the book and has seen one way or another the five days of the famous line he said to his mother on her death beds and said i forgive you i hope my grandchildren do not say that to me. when i read the exurbs in the near "time" magazine i realize how true the revealing it is the way families of a certain kind live together i have to come to terms with the practice of veterinary people you have grew up with reached the end of the line and it sounds like something really worth reading. >> up next william least heat-moon look at small-town america. and his first road trip book since "blue highways" even as it sounds and missouri, kentucky, wyoming, o klahoma but mexico florida and other states. it is 70 minutes. >> it is a lot of people's favorite city in the country at i assume it is yours. the last time i was here on a book be 11 i was here for prairie earth i was on a 40 citi book to -- tour by the time i was a princess close fading than i had the flu by