and chris buskirk, editor of the conservative journal and web- te "american greatness." he joins us from phoenix. hello to both of you. we thank you for joining us on nk you "newsnaur". r flake, let me start with you. do you believe the -- what we know about the president's conversation in that phone call with the president of ukrainehi warrants impeachment inquiry? >> i do. i do. i think that conversation, just from the transcript, not descriptions of the transcript, but the transcript itself is damning enough to launch inquiry, so, yes. >> woodruff: chris bukirk, what do you believe based on what we know about that conversation? >> no, you know, i've read that transcript. it's got to be at least five times. what's more is i'm not connced that even nancy pelosi thinks that it warrants it. i mean, my understanding of this hat this is really a part of 2020 election campaig that t it's not a serious attempt to remove the president from office because nobody realieves that the senate will convict. >> woodruff: but i mean on the facts, chri chris buskirk, quic, the facts of

. >> woouff: chris buskirk, what do you believe based on what we know about that conversation? >> no, you know, i've read that transcript. it's got to be at least five times. what's more is ti not con that even nancy pelosi thinks that it warrants it. i mean, my understanding of this is that this is really a part of 2020 election campaign, that it's not a serious attempt tosi remove the pnt from office because nobody really believes that the senatewill vict. >> woodruff: but i mean on thect chri chris buskirk, quickly, the facts of what was said in that conversation,um president asking the president of ukraine to help o joean investigation int biden, a foreign leader. >> yeah, no, i me -- no, that's right, because what joe biden did while vice president is highly questionable, and he's bragged about this in public, that way he threatened with ukraine with withholding a billion dollars of aid if theye didn't f prosecutor. that requires something looks into, if he s selling his office while vice president, he of course kneeled the assistance of the ukrainian government to get to