chris cillizza, you're always so wary about saying anything, but here's your thought. what do you make of what we saw. >> i thought it was relatively compelling tv. actually, chris -- you know, the problem with politics nowadays in my perspective is you don't see enough real emotion. >> thank you. >> almost everything is manufactured and focus grouped. she was clearly annoyed and she expressed it. i would say rightfully so. >> do you know what i think i saw, melinda, and we have been in politics, been on the bus together, i have to tell you we saw what politicians behave like when there's not a camera on them. human beings. when somebody, you know, underestimates your status like that guy did with the question apparently, you react. who are you talking to? >> and i would have loved to have seen that hillary a little more during the campaign obviously. we all would have, but right. >> they would have loved her in scranton, i can tell you that. they would have said, there's a regular person, you know. >> right. >> anyway, i think we have milked this thing to death. chris

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joining me right now is the waup chris cillizza and time magazine's jay newton-small.et the agenda. he wanted it to be health care. he didn't want to be going back and nailing interrogators or torturers, whatever you want to call them as it turns out now. well, we got a story on our hands here. what do you make of this now? we have evidence out there thanks to freedom of information success by the aclu, we now know that what was done to these suspects, they were by a lot of deaf nations they were tortured. >> you know, chris, i think you hit the nail on the head politically in the intro. this is not something that the obama administration wants to deal with. they made clear from the very start they were not interested in looking back, they wanted to look forward. but the evidence here, don't forget this is always important, not to mention the fact that the ideological left, part of president obama's base, is very fired up about this, the evidence has forced their hand in some ways. it does detract from health care. it does distract -- >> he's prosecuting now because it

let me go to chris cillizza. your thoughts. it's not usual to see the middle class up in arms, but these people look pretty well off. they don't look like rich people, but they certainly aren't poor people demanding health care. apparently they have what they want. they don't want it touched. >> you know, chris, to jeanne's point, i think she's right. i'm always skeptical of turning a anecdote into a broader conclulgs conclusion, which is that there's clearly an element of people, whether organized or not organized, who are not happy with this plan. if you look at national polling, and lots has been done in the last few weeks, support for the president's plan has waned a bit. that said, as someone who writes a blog for a living, i'm all in favor of civil as opposed to incivil discourse. i think more is likely to get done by listening to one another rather than shouting one another down. >> but let's go to the issues that get people heated up. it's not just the cost of the program because we're not clear about that, it's not eve

your thoughts, chris cillizza? >> i was going to whole-heartedly -- i think melinda was exactly right. i was struck -- the thing that struck me, you see these angry crowds yelling at arlen specter, you work for us, claire mccaskill having to tell people to be quiet. and then you see this event where the president of the united states says, is there anybody out there who's suspicious of this? he's asking for someone to sort of come -- in truth the person who stood up was not exactly, you know, someone -- these angry mobs we've seen. melinda's exactly right, the disconnect i was really, really struck by. >> specter looked pretty good, surprisingly good, just standing there, taking it, you know. trying to put his point across but standing up to the angry mob looks a lot better. >> he's a great argument for american health care, i'll tell you that, look at this guy. he's 80 years old going head to head with this guy. anyway, chris cillizza, a charming event. melinda, you're the best. what's the thing called? >> politic

your thoughts, chris cillizza? >> i was going to whole-heartedly -- i think may hill dewas exactly right. you see these angry crowds yelling at arlen specter, you yell for us. clair mccaskill having to tell people to be quiet. the president of the united states says, is there anybody out there who's suspicious approximate this? about this? he's asking for someone to sort of come -- in truth the person who stood up was not exactly, you know, someone -- these angry mobs we've seen. melin melinda's exactly right, the disconnect i was really, really struck by. >> specter looked pretty good, surprisingly good, just standing there, taking it, you know. trying to put his point across but standing up to the angry mob looks a lot better. >> he's a great argument for american health care, i'll tell you that, look at this guy. he's 80 years old going head to head with this guy. anyway, chris cillizza, a charming event. melinda, you're the best. "politicsdaily.com. >> politicsdaily.com. join us tomorrow night 5:00 and 7:00 eas

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