chris cizilla when peter hart says the cement is starting to dry, who is still persuadable? those who are still up for grabs, if you bill, is the phrase he used on the "the daily rundown" with chuck. that number is down to 12%. tell us -- >> right. >> what both camps are trying to do to reach that 12%. >> i think if they -- if they knew a message that could reach all that 12%, you'd be seeing it every media appearance, every television ad, radio ad, everything you could get. the problem with it, andrea, from a campaign perspective, the people who still haven't made up their mind or are persuadable, for someone but could change, number one, it's small and think about it, it's small nationally, even smaller in the swij stawin states. you're not talking about that many people, in the nine or ten swing states it's not a huge number. number two, a lot of these people are low information voters which is they don't consume lots of news about politics, don't watch lots of events. they fast forward, maybe that's everybody at this point, skip through the ads when they're taping. >> we

thank you, chris cizilla, see you later, jeff goldberg, thank you very much. joing me in new york, dan ey campaign.s you were watching the game. what do you think? >> watched it with congressman ryan in cincinnati and had the same reaction he did. everyo in the room that were watching it were stunned. >> and in watching the united nations today and the president, the pside laiutgh line saying that containment is not an option, that time is not unlimited with iran. does that satisfy you and your past criticisms of his policy on iran? >> it's a version of what he said before as jeffrey said. nothing new. if you look at the president's speeches over the year, president 2009, 2010, 2011, he cites the biggest challenges facing america and the u.n. and world, he said in in 2009, cited the raeli/. en peace process, citedyria l euas in disarray. there is no progress on the israeli/palestinian track. distance between the israeli and u.s. government today. iran closer to a nuclear weapon than has eve been in recent years. and syria you have some 20,000 syrians dead ands

. >> joining me now for our daily fix chris cizilla, and manager editor of politics.com and chuck todd white house chief correspondent and political director for nbc news and host of "the daily rundown," a lot of titles chuck, and nbc national investigative correspondent michael is cough. welcome, all. chuck, let's talk with you and chis about the politics of this. talk to michael about where we got it from huff post, mother jones, and we all getting this video tape. chuck, the political fallout initially. >> look, it's -- i mean you see that, obviously, the campaign is concerned about it. they wouldn't have called the late night press conference last nig night. it seems as fe they didn't know what to say. they had to say something but it wasn't fully sure what they needed to say. romney basically said i didn't say anything i disagree with. i said it inartfully hoping it would tie it over. the concern has to be now, you see that he is getting a lot of critical press from conservatives. people like bill crystal, many even moderate republican leaning columnists if you will, conservative

as president obama widens his ohio lead in the latest polls, joining me for our daily fix, chris cizilla, managing editor of post politics.com and "washington post" political reporter karen tu multi. chris, first talk about the polls. how significant is it the double-digit lead in some polls now, cbs/"new york times" poll, the trend first in "the washington post" and our wall street journal/nbc news polls as well, is ohio moving fairly steadily into the obama camp? >> i would say the answer to that at the moment is yes. the post on monday did move ohio from a tossup state to a lean obama state. not just because of our poll that showed him up eight points but because of the wealth of data we've had out there. i would say as a word of caution, i don't think anyone including the obama team thinks they are going to win ohio by eight or ten points. they are ahead at the moment. they're probably ahead and think they may win by three, four, five points, but remember how critical ohio is to mitt romney's math. hard to see how he gets to 270 electoral votes without it. why he's in the state today

joining me now, chris cizilla msnbc contributor and managing editor of host politics.com. this is the biggest edge that the president has had in ohio so far. and what does it mean that the romney/ryan campaign are focusing on ohio as well, the president will be going to toledo all roads leading to ohio later this week? >> that's right. look, andrea, what it means is history is close to determinative as it relates to republicans, ohio and the presidency, which is no republican presidential candidate, no republican presidential candidate, has been elected president without winning ohio. i think the bus tour in ohio begins tomorrow with mitt romney and paul ryan is a evidence that they are clearly worried. i've talked to lots of people, so much public polling out there, some showing president obama with almost a double-digit lead. i talked to most people on the republican/democratic side who say it's about four or five-point edge for president obama. in their own internal polling. look, that's a great place for president obama to be. remember, he doesn't need ohio to get to 2