katy, you and i were talking about chris you and i were talk about chris collins before.is collins after serving time and the brazenness of his, you know, proven corruption because he pleaded guilty after they had him dead to rights. he was pardoned by donald trump, by president donald trump. so he's said he was going to devote the rest of his life to service. but new york has its share, more than its share as we saw recently on the house side from long island. those who have been charged and eventually run out of town. but let's talk, joyce vance, about the charges here because the charges and the evidence, it was the evidence that was supposed to be so compelling, you know, the cash that was hidden and the gold bars, the mercedes, all that other stuff. that's what they thought was going to be so compelling to a jury. we don't know which way they're going, though. joyce? >> that's flashy evidence for prosecutors to be able to display to a jury. and i've heard numerous variations of defenses designed to convince juries that there are legitimate reasons that defendants kee

unfolding here in the united states, want to go back to kaitlan collins kaitlan, you've got a special guest coming up. >> yeah. wolf, we have senator chris coons who are joining me. he is one of president biden's closest allies and also the campaign co-chair and senator, thank you for being here. i just want to first get your reaction to it was just being described. one of clearly the toughest decisions president biden has ever made okay. and thanks for a chance to be on with you again. a joe biden is a fighter what has distinguished our president and throughout decades of life is that every time he's been knocked down, he's gotten back up again. and we in delaware, we have served with him in the senate i loved and admired him for decades, admire his fight and his toughness and he was convinced he could continue this fight and beat donald trump but the last few weeks have been a difficult process. i would rather not focus on the process at all. i think today we should focus on joe biden's incredible legacy of service to our nation, his selflessness, his accomplishments in his decades in the senate, leading the judiciary committee on fore