and chris condon, and got after dave inside, you have to have a proper newspaper.you know, there's plenty of news cheroot port and they said they'd call and a good base for something like that in this movement. and dave thought that was a terrific idea and encouraged him. and so about a week later maybe or two, david never said anything about this to us in the office. they were all but three people in the office i think then. so i am sitting at the desk and this kid walks in the front door and says hi, i am chris condon and dave brower is heard me to start a newspaper for friends at the earth and it just rented the space it "rolling stone." can you give me a check for $5000? and i said no, i don't have any checks. i don't know you from adam. if i had $5000 i wouldn't give it to you anyway. we were living hand to mouth. david givens money so we could buy stationery and pens once in a while. so in the end though, this god a fire lit under everybody and we started this paper within a couple of nuns and we did it within the office. chris had to break his deal with "rol

closed the bar and one of the people who was helping him close the barfs a young fellow named chris condone who worked on a newspaper called the "northwest passage" which was a weekly paper that was free. and chris -- we had produced three issues of a little news letter right at get beginning called friend there were two parallel organizations working together then at the john mayer substitute and friends of the earth. and so friend of the earth about a year old at this time. and chris con lon got after dave and said you have to have a proper newspaper. there's plenty of news report, and there's a big hole csh there's -- there's a good place something like that in the movement. dave thought it was a terrific idea and encouraged him, and so about a week later maybe or two, david never said anything to us about it in the office. there were all of three people there, and i think and i'm setting sitting at the desk and a a kid walks in the front door and he says my name is chris and i rented space at rolling stone. can you give me a check for $5,000. [laughter] and i said, no. [laughter] i don'

he did that. >> so for every one there is a chris condon. >> that's his problem. he could really lucked out, but he could also bomb in his judgment. >> he did on a few times, but he had home runs much more often than he had any right to even hope for anything. so i mean, i could keep you here for two weeks telling brower stories and i'm learning a lot from all this staff, all this research. maybe a try to be quick about one fairly famous story. you may all know it. some of you may not. but one of my favorite lines he gave before a house committee in about 53 or 54 and the dinosaur that can alluded to before, as ken said, it was a very small group, the environmental movement, conservation movement in those days. there's people from the wilderness society and the national parks association was influential and prominent in the izaak walton lead, which no one has ever heard about anymore. anyway, they were fighting about these two dams that were proposed for construction inside dinosaur national monument, which is part of the national park system. the national monumen

welcome back before the break our guest chris martenson says that the fed may have missed the boat on providing more liquidity not that he's condoning this but just if the fed is trying to prop things up that they may have missed their chance so we're going to talk more about what some kind of a central bank effort would do at this point let's bring chris martenson back and he's author of the cross crash course i should also mention that interesting leigh he is speaking at the cripple lou. go to center in massachusetts this weekend that incidentally our producer has been to and highly recommend so just one gets the throw that in there so dr martens and before the break when you're saying the fed may have missed the boat on liquidity what happens then if the fed does act or if there is a war needed central bank effort as you said you're anticipating what it do more at this point than just prop up asset prices that market prices as it has and in the past arounds. well i think that the time of individual central bank action is is over at this point the fed has done a pretty much everything they could do in the u.s. markets of course we