and from senate banking committee member chris coonce in the moments to come. anything john boehner can say that is meaningful? >> part of it, you call it pro wrestling. everybody says, these guys aren't acting like grown-ups. maybe what's going on here, there actually are disagreements. this is democracy. >> here's what -- i accept your point completely and am certain there is sincere disagreements, a deficit largely created through massive job loss and a financial crisis and war, and then having a debate how to get rid of a deficit created through a massive financial crisis and unemployment -- >> well, that's not what the debate is all about. >> that's my whole point. >> barack obama -- >> because we have a deficit created by a financial crisis, unemployment and war and the democrats and barack obama do not want to deal with that. then avoid it at all costs. looking for a political view that gives them a seal of approval and kick the can to 2017 and republicans don't want to deal with that. make hay to annihilate barack obama today. nobody wants to deal with