delaware democratic senator chris coons shares the senate foreign relations subcommittee on africa andow. senator coons, thank you so much for being on the program. >> thank you, luke. >> i want to ask you, we were very much supportive here in the united states two years ago, on the two-year anniversary of the egyptian revolution in tahrir square, as well as what we saw in tunisia, as well as what we saw in libya. were we naive to be thankful that these despottic leaders were pushed out of power? >> well, luke, what you're pointing to is the inherent tension between our desire for stability, for security, for economic progress and our fundamental commitment to democracy. i recently visited egypt for several days last week on a congressional delegation trip with republicans and democrats. we had a chance to meet with the leadership of egypt, both the defense minister, prime minister, the current president, and a lot of the opposition. and i left deeply concerned about the path forward for egypt, reminded of its importance, it is the most populous arab country. it is, in many ways, the l