joseph berry and chris duffy, the 23-year-old son of k.b.w.'s surviving co-c.e.o. john duffy. many people doubted the firm could stay in business, but now ten years later k.b.w. is much bigger and is one of the leading investment banks in the country. it still specializes in the financial sector, but it's expanded internationally and it went public in 2006. its shares trade on the new york stock exchange. when i met with john duffy i asked him how he feels about the way things turned out. >> we're more than satisfied with what we've accomplished. and i don't think any of us would have been so bold back then to predict that we would be of this size. but the people that work here are pretty passionate about the firm and take pride in working here. and where we have been presented those opportunities to grow in the last ten years, everybody was all in. so i take an enormous amount of pride in being part of that. and and i know a lot of other people here do too. it's nice to be part of a winning team. >> susie: you know, john, the kbw story is so amazing. and how did you rebuild t