that's how i met chris fischer. let me say this to you both. together in the kitchen. what i like chris the recipes you do it because you're working with amy or for the rest of us. the recipes are pretty simple. i made one last night the potato skins. do you try to keep it simple for us? >> actually amy comes up with most of the concepts, and i have to write the recipe. >> i do >> yeah. >> that was news to me too. >> yeah. completely. we brainstorm. she couples with a dish and then i come up with the recipe. >> i was impressed by you. >> well, i need some work. amy, what were your cooking skills, culinary skills like before you started sleeping with the chef? what could you do? >> oh, my gosh. i could make one meal, steak, potato and spinach. and now i would say i can make two meals. >> how did you guys -- we should say that chris is actually a james beard award-winning chef. he can actually cook. he has skills in the kitchen. amy how did the idea come about because your show is really, really well done. you two have a lot of fun with nanny jane

>> reporter: fischer martin and observers called out former senator chris dodd, a member of biden's vp pick, california senator kamela harris. "politico" reports he told associates she had no remorse for attacking biden over his civil rights record during a debate last year. >> the notion that somehow ambition is a negative to me is going to be a really step back. what we need for women in politics is to have those ambitious women who are willing to put themselves forwards and run for was on. >> reporter: though he'll be the third man to put a woman on the ticket, biden could make history in another way. >> this would be a game changer for women of color. no woman has ever been -- no black woman has ever been governor, but they could potentially be a vice president. >> not a vice president -- >> reporter: so far the closest the country has come to having a female vice president is on hbo. that's why errin haines believes biden's choice is so crucial. >> did the president call? >> no. >> really seeing a woman as being second in line to the job i think makes it even more real for the ele