chris geiger department of the environment and i coordinate the pest management program. i been here for 13 years doing this that we're very proud of this program. recent data good job of describing ipm is always above described not on an elevator. like to add-without objection >>[laughing] anywhere for that matter. i like to add first of all what she said was correct but the amount used in the past year. it's pretty menacing smile if you consider how much land is being treated and we have a very good job with rec and park landscape meant maintenance staff over the years and allowed that is revolves around our training program. i think you asked what training.. something about a dozen trainings per year.. training events including a big springtime training. all the gardeners on a monthly meetings of the ipm program which includes half. were doing these things and our objective is to stay in front of what's available to reduce hazards and risk. this is it's part of precautionary principle that we are required to do is called alternatives analysis to not just do with legal