next speaker is chris gilbert. mr. gilbert, welcome. >> is it possible to pass a page to everybody here? so my name's chris gilbert. i represent the bay chapter of the sierra club. i'm on their water committee. i had something written down, but i think it's more important to address the presentation today. what i'm passing out is a document put out by the public policy institute of california on alternative water supplies, and it is -- the back is where it might be more interesting to start. you can see that southern california has ten times the amount of recycled water in its investments, so this tells me that northern california is behind the ball on that alternative water source. on the front, it has the idea that alternate tiive water source -- mixed water sources improve drought resilience. so -- and then -- so that's my document there. and then, i want to talk about transfers. i want to second barry's point about successful transfers being done in southern california. the m.w.d. is now leasing land in some water d