i'm joined by the former captain of the national space station, chris hadfield.ey, still with us. chris, you have experience in space with the dragon capsule. you have met elon musk, you have met jeff bezos. who has a better shot of winning the race to space? >> i think it is a really good set of circumstances right now. what we need more than anything else is better engines. we are so limited by our engine technology. trying to safely get to space and then get even further out into the universe. we have sort of been just making small modifications to existing engines. that is really what both of these organizations are working for. it's helping to pay for better engines. that two of the best and most excess launcher for newer's are putting -- theirreneurs are putting minds to that problem. >> who might be doing what? bezos engine that jeff and his blue origins group are working on in partnership with , they arench alliance looking at cutting their reliance on a russian engine. we have been subcontracting and using that for several years. we are looking to have a

we spoke with the former commander of the international space station, chris hadfield, and started byhim -- who will win the race to space? >> i think it's a really good set of circumstances right now. what we need more than anything else are better engines. we are so limited by our engines technology, trying to safely get to space and then try to get even further out into the universe. we've been making small modifications to existing engines. that's what the funding from nasa is helping to pay for that is better engines. so i'm really excited about that some of the best are putting their efforts into trying to solve that problem. >> but there are also huge competitors. can you explain who is doing what and who might be doing what better? >> sure. the engine that jeff bezos and his blue origins group are working on in partnership with the united launch alliance, they're look at cutting their reliance on a russian engine that we've been partnering and subcontracting and using for several years. looking to have an american made next generation rocket engine and jeff has brilliant peopl