joining us is chris harmer, from the institute of the study of war.e hand i've seen pictures of kim jong-un having climbed whatever mount kilimanjaro and wearing dress shoes and a suit. clearly photo shopped. on other hand they are trying to brag they have something new the world doesn't know about. what do you think? >> kim jong-un is a clown. unfortunately he is a clown with a bunch of ballistic missiles and valid nuclear weapons program. he is not a guy we can dismiss out of hand. we can mock him and should mock him but he has level of capability with baistic missile program. he is shifting from liquid fuel rocket motors, to solid rocket fuel motors. with liquid rock bet fuel, we have head's up when they launch. rocket fuel, two minutes launch cycle, we have no heads up. it is a big issue if they have actually done this. melissa: that is certainly what the drawings show. we'll see if that reality, i guess. we don't have a lot of visibility what is going on there. i do want to ask but the u.s. navy dismissing the commander of the seventh fleet in th

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to institute for the study of war senior naval analyst chris harmer. think this two positions, peace or strength being ready for war are necessary. but emphasizing the fact that we're still ready for diplomacy. i don't think they're necessarily conflictive, do you? >> no. not at all. in fact, just the contrary. diplomacy does not work ever, unless it's backed up by serious military options that are credible both from the technological perspective and from the perspective of having a political well to implement them. over the last 65 years, we've had a very patient approach with the crazy north korean leadership. we're quickly approaching the point where that patience is going to run out because they are now threatening to attack the united states of america directly, and they've got the political and quickly developing. david: they're crazy. let's face it. i know they're not technically crazy, and our officials are saying that. but the fact is they have no concern about any human life whatsoever. whether it's ours or their own, which is why one thing t