. >> all right, chris heben, if you can just stand by. it's navy s.e.a.l.s foundation.org. chris was a s.e.a.l. for ten years. listen to this next interview and i'll talk to you on the other side. we know those killed in action were heroes choosing to fight for their country. now we're learning the details that hint of the devastation their families are feeling. erin carson vaughn was the father of a 2-year-old and 2-month-old baby. geneva is his grandmother and joins me from union city, tennessee. we're deeply sorry for your loss. please convey that to your family. how did you learn that aaron had been killed? miss vaughn, are you there? >> yes. >> yes. how did you learn that aaron had been killed? >> his father, my son, called me after he found out about 8:00 this morning. >> did military officials tell you or your son anything about the attack and if the taliban were responsible? did they even go into that? >> no. all i know is about that is what i saw on the news. that the taliban said that they shot the helicopter down that my grandson was in. >> can you tell us about a

chris heben is a former s.e.a.l. from cleveland, ohio. let's talk about the impacts of this news on what is a relatively small s.e.a.l. community. this clearly would send shock waves. >> yes, that's very true. it's a tight knit and small community. everyone knows each other. there's pocket -- there's a community on the east coast and community on the west coast, usually when something happens good or bad, in either one of those locations, the other side knows about it in very quick order. the impact on the operators themselves is significant but however it's not going to keep these guys from doing their jobs. we mourn death differently in this community. we like to celebrate the lives of our comrades that have gone before us. the best way we know how to do that, strap the gear back on and get going. i assure you that's what the guys are doing right now. >> are the rituals s.e.a.l.s have, is there a certain way s.e.a.l.s and, the family and communities deal with this? what do they do? >> there's a lot of rituals that take place. on a perso