we will take a quick break and >> we all know who chris hedges is, that's why you're here.ig draw. i just want to say a few things . i worked at the "l.a. times" for 30 years and -- so i know something about mainstream journalism. and i have a particular respect for chris hedges coming out of that environment, trying to work in these institutions, trying to maintain your integrity and up against everything from insufficientrable arrogance, bureaucracy, and timidity. and tunism. and it's really sort of been interesting to switch rules -- roles and be the editor of

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when we bring somebody in is we bring somebody in from the right, we bring people from the left, chris hedges, tom frank wrote what is the matter with kansas, jack wrote what is the matter with california. we present them both. the only criticisms we got when we presented jack, when we presented on frank, i leave that out for you as i turn this over to jack, public library, we should be defending the first amendment and the first amendment means all voices should be heard, all ideas should be heard and that is what we believe in the public library and that is one of the reasons it is a great pleasure to me to introduce my friend jack cashill. [applause] >> just to correct the record no one in north new jersey worked for a pan. if you leave that in that neighborhood. thank you for coming out tonight, thanks to c-span for being here, this is my ninth c-span presentation and i have friends on line, thank you for bearing with me all this time. things to kansas city public library, the librarian the country that does do both sides of issues at so refreshing, it is almost unheard of. [applause] >>

we bring people in from the left, we have lots of them, chris hedges, tom frank, wrote "what i this matter with kansas. i "jack wrote" what this matter with california. "we presented both. the only krill simms we got when we presented jack, not tom frank. so i leave that out for you is a i turn this over to jack. the public library we believe we should defend the first amendment. the first amendment means all voices should be heard, all ideas should be heard. and that's what we believe in the public library and that's one of the reasons it's a great -- and only one of the ropes it's a great pleasure for me to introduce my great friend, jack cashill. [applause] >> just to correct the record no one in north new jersey wore short pants, okay? you'd be laughed out of the neighborhood. thank you all for coming out tonight. thanks c-span for being here. my ninth c-span presentation, and i have friends here online so thank you for bearing with me all this time. and thanks to kansas city public library. the only library in the country i know of that does do both sides of issues, and it's so refres

i think chris may be right, that she is hedging to a certain extent, in that she is saying she will nother deputy clerk. >> she's asking for her name to be removed from this. right now in kentucky, the state law says that it rests solely on the county clerk to issue the licenses. but they have the authority. only the legislature has the authority to transfer the authority. that's not going to come until january, right? >> again, unfortunately, we have to get a little bit into the weeds of kentucky law on this. as i understand it from other people, that a deputy clerk's signature on a marriage license is legitimate, and you don't need the specific say so of the clerk itself. >> we're mixing -- we're not mixing. we're missing the point. jeffrey, when the supreme court says that this is now the law of the land, do you need legislation to back that up? is that enough? >> it's enough. >> the kentucky statute, it talks about a burden. has any official showed a burden? >> the case may come through the courts. we've had these cases, as folks know, about wedding photographers. >> mike huckabee s

hedge their bets. they need somebody else in case something foes really wrong -- goes really wrong. trish: the campaign hasn't done anything. chris joins us with fixed microphone. >> i think you can hear me. i was trying to yell so loud. trish: good. when you look how she is struggling right now. you see success of biden, the guy who hasn't even declared himself, do you as a democratic strategist there, think to yourself we need him in this race? >> no, i don't. she needs to get out of vicious cycles backed. what she really needs the poll, not the poll but debate in week 1/2 where she can shine on issues. most democrats and liberal voters, want to see specifics on plans. trish: will she be that good at debate. >> i think she will do very well in debate against field there right now. bernie sanders and even joe biden. joe biden debated hillary clinton in 2008. didn't do too well. i think joe biden would do better. trish: blake burman says cnn could wait until last moment possible, eastern day of. joe biden if you want to be on the stage we'll take you. just from a pure television ratings standpoint they would be better off having

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