that was chris hedges, pulitzer prize-winning journalist.his most recent book, "wages of rebellion: the moral imperative of revolt." robert reich served as labor secretary under president clinton, is a professor at university of california, berkeley. his most recent book, saving capitalism: for the many, not the few. when we come back, "the making of donald trump" with david cay johnston.  [music break] amy: this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. as we continue this holiday special with pulitzer prize winning journalist david cay johnston who has been reporting on donald trump for decades. johnston first covered trump in the 1980's while he was working as bureau chief for the philadelphia inquirer in atlantic city. david cay johnston later covered trump at "the new york times." johnston's new biography of donald trump has just been published. it is called, "the making of donald trump." juan gonzalez and i interviewed david cay johnston last month. we began by asking him what's the main theme he

amy: chris hedges? >> well, reducing the election to personalities is kind of infantile at this point. the fact is, we live in a system that sheldon wolin calls inverted totalitarianism. it's a system where corporate power has seized all of the levers of control. there is no way to vote against the interests of goldman sachs or exxonmomobil or raytheon. we've lost our privacy. we've seen, under obobama, an assault against civil libertiess ththat has outstripppped what george w. bush c carried out.. we've e seen the executive branh misinterpret thth2001 authohorization to usese military force act as giving itself the right to assassinate american citizens, including children. i speak of anwar al-awlaki's 16-year-old son. we have bailed out the banks, pushed throughgh programs of austerity. this has been a bipartisan effort because they'v've both been capturured by corporate e pow. we have undergrgone what john ralslston saulul correctly calls a corporate coup d'état in slow motion, and it's over. i just

the second circuit said chris hedges don't have standing, therefore doesn't have standing in chris hedgesersus obama. the petition was turned down. this was all under obama. obama's espionage act destroyed whistleblowers who once sought out independent journalists to expose corruption, malfeasance and crime against government and we must honor two of our greatest whistleblowers, chelsea manning and julian assange. [applause] >> and edward snowden. [applause] >> if you don't have a third-party option then i would encourage you to write in chelsea manning or edward snowden. let me talk about what is coming. i think sanders made a disastrous mistake. i understand his logic. we encouraged him to run as an independent, he said i don't want to end a break ralph nader. what he said was i don't want to take on the democratic party movement and become a political pariah because sanders has played -- built a faustian bargain with the democratic party. he campaign for bill clinton in 96 after nafta, after the destruction of the welfare system. under original welfare guidelines, 17% of recipients, ch

amy: today, a fiery debate between pulitzer prize winning journalist chris hedges and former clintonor secretary robert reich. hedges has endorsed the green party's jill stein,

amy: today, a fiery debate between pulitzer prize winning journalist chris hedges and former clintonlabor secretary robert reich. hedges has endorsed the green party's jill stein,

chris: they are. the story about hedge funds taking money out that people have put that into perspective. they have to process -- about 33 billion is in their brokering business. i think we have to say the vast majority of deposits are from, you know, normal, run-of-the-mill customers in germany, spain, italy, etc., and the fears about the liquidity situation were certainly overdone. the big focus is on the capital situation and what might've her if the department of justice goes to the top end of its settlement. vonnie: it was the past of some of the names pulling out -- millennium -- that perhaps spooked investors, or perhaps they saw an opportunity if shares or debt were to get cheaper. mr. wheeler: far be it for me to understand why they did that, but we can draw our own conclusions why it became public knowledge they were taking their money out, and the stock tumbled. the most accord thing is to look at the overall balance sheet of deutsche bank. 215 billion in liquidity. there are questions about capital, but the ability to service itself at the moment is very sound. i think the ceo