firearms expert chris henderson examined the knurls on the fatal bullets. knurls are the ridge-like protrusions that hold the lubrication needed to fire them. henderson then compared those knurls with the knurls on the bullets found in shannon touchet's bag. >> we had the same number of knurls, same width, and those knurls looked kind of like railroad tracks going around the outer surface of that bullet. all the physical characteristics, everything we could physically see and measure were indistinguishable from one another. we could not tell the difference between one and the other. >> police brought shannon touchet in for questioning. he insisted he knew nothing about ron shaw's murder. he said he was with his girlfriend that night. >> she did verify his alibi and stated that shannon touchet was, in fact, with her in lake charles. >> but looking at shannon's shoes, investigators noticed he was wearing nike air jordan basketball shoes, similar to the shoe impressions at the crime scene. scientists took casts of shannon's shoes and compared them to the cast f

i had interviewed aaron mckinney and russell henderson asked tentatively. i've interviewed chris price in chastity peace be extensively. all four admitted to me that the story about matthew making an advance was really essentially an alibi. aaron told kristen and in my opinion anyway this was kind of a defend but it was a story at aaron and christine decide it was some kind of a defensive nails who enlisted the help of russell henderson in chastity paisley telling that story that decide to do this matthew making a unwanted tape advance. i want to read you one short -- this is a short letter and this was at least obvious to you at the time early in the case. this came out later. when i was through my research at the courthouse, this really struck me very much. i kept looking at it, examining it. this was a letter that aaron mckinney wrote, a handwritten letter part of the official record that aaron smuggled to wrestle at the albany county detention center. this was after they were arrested and aaron was essentially rising russell about the scenario they should use to explain the a

start whispering to chris jensen, ask him what this means and who these people are and what that is supposed to represent. >> one name on the list jumped out at diana. thomas henderson state police agent who grew up across the street from dorothy edwards and james holloway and was friendly with both. >> tom henderson had nothing to do with forensic investigation at all. nothing. he wasn't supposed to be involved in the case any way. these were people he knew his whole lifelong. >> there was really no reason for him to have removed these things from the laboratory. we were arguing that this evidence had in all likelihood been tampered with and quite conceivably that mrs. edwards' blood had been put on the garments will. >> it would now be up to the judge to rule whether or not elmore deserved a new trial. the decision would take four months to come down. >> we presented all this great evidence. we're very excited. we're stoked. then comes the judge's order and the cover letter said,ward lee elmore may well not be guilty but that will be for an appellate court to find. >> the judge had left elmore's fate up to other judges to decide. >> i became literally became hyste

start whispering to chris jensen, ask him what this means and who these people are and what that is supposed to represent. >> one name on the list jumped out at diana. thomas henderson police agent who grew up across the street from dorothy edwards and james holloway and was friendly with both. >> tom henderson had nothing to do with forensic investigation at all. nothing. he wasn't supposed to be involved in the case anyway because these were people he knew his whole life long. >> there was really no reason for him to have removed these things from the laboratory. we were arguing that this evidence had in all likelihood been tampered with and quite conceivably that mrs. edwards' blood had been put on the garments. >> it would now be up to the judge to rule whether or not elmore deserved a new trial. the decision would take four months to come down. >> we presented all this great evidence. we're very excited. we're stoked. then comes the judge's order and the cover letter said edward lee elmore may well not be guilty, but that will be for an appellate court to find. >> judge kinard had left elmore's fate up to other judges to decide. >> i became literally hysterical

start whispering to chris jensen, ask him what this means and who these people are and what that is supposed to represent. >> one name on the list jumped out at diana. thomas hendersone agent who grew up across the street from dorothy edwards and james holloway and was friendly with both. >> tom henderson had nothing to do with forensic investigation at all. nothing. he wasn't supposed to be involved in the case anyway because these were people he knew his whole life long. >> there was really no reason for him to have removed these things from the laboratory. we were arguing that this evidence had in all likelihood been tampered with and quite conceivably that mrs. edwards' blood had been put on the garments. >> it would now be up to the judge to rule whether or not elmore deserved a new trial. the decision would take four months to come down. >> we presented all this great evidence. we're very excited. we're stoked. then comes the judge's order and the cover letter said edward lee elmore may well not be guilty, but that will be for an appellate court to find. >> judge kinard had left elmore's fate up to other judges to decide. >> i became literally hysterical, comp

henderson. you look at that clip, he's at a town hall and we've seen heckling in these town halls, we've seen exchanges. hunter, is he getting the ole chrissexu chris christie swagger back? >> well, they heckled him over the bridge and they've chosen these locations carefully. these are supposed to be friendly territory for him and he's still getting hit with this. we used to see him put up these clips on youtube of these great moments where he would sort of challenge hecklers and people who argued with him and we're not seeing that now so it does seem to be sort of a slightly weaker -- >> a little more restrained exchanged and he certainly was respectful. and this is a guy the republican party was pointing to. they looked at his numbers, how he did in the election. kind of he was the future of the republican moderate wing of the party at least. he won women by 12 points, hispanics 19, democrats now don't seem too worried. here's debbie wasserman schultz. >> i think it's humorous that chris christie is the example that is the best example of republicans' evolution and ability to win the presidential election in 2016. if that's what they'r

henderson. i'm trying to see which one of you has the most shocked look on your face. i'll go with nia on this. you're shocked probably beyond your ability to articulate it. that chrise would actually support the medicaid expansion in his state and then would use republican governors association money to try to hit candidates who have done the same thing. >> this is the exact same playbook from 2010, it's the exact same playbook we're seeing all over the country when it comes to obamacare. on the one hand you have democratic senate candidates as well as gubernatorial candidates either trying to run away from obama, not have him campaign in the state, but then you have obviously republicans trying to tie obama to these democratic candidates. what you haven't seen a lot of, however, is a real full-throated defense of obamacare, and in some ways you have to hand it to sheheen for writing to chris christie and calling hmm out on essentially what is a bit of hypocrisy there by funding this ad that criticizes sheheen for doing exactly what chris christie and a number of other republican governors have done. >> e.j., if you're going for any form of consistency here, the re

start whispering to chris jensen, ask him what this means and who these people are and what that is supposed to represent. >> one name on the list jumped out at diana. thomas henderson grew up across the street from dorothy edwards and james holloway and was friendly with both. >> tom henderson had nothing to do with forensic investigation at all. nothing. he wasn't supposed to be involved in the case anyway because these were people he knew his whole life long. >> there was really no reason for him to have removed these things from the laboratory. we were arguing that this evidence had in all likelihood i had really expected that he would grant relief because they had presented a compelling case of mr. elmore's innocence. >> diana was discovering that proving mr. elmore's innocence was not enough. to get a new trial, elmore's team would have to prove that elmore's constitutional rights had been violated. >> a person can be innocent but as long as they get a fair trial, that's all they're entitled to. well, that begs the question. is it a fair trial if somebody has lied? >> diana's team immediately appealed judge kinard's decision to the south carolina supreme court