this is chris hines. he was worried about the corruption, the geopolitical risk, and how bad it will look. so he wisely distances himself from hunter biden's and devon archer's appointments to burisma. he didn't simply call his stepfather, secretary of state and say, i have a problem with this. he didn't tell his friends, hey guys, i'm not getting on the board. i want nothing to do with this. he went so far as to send an email to a senior state department officials about this issue. this is chris hines. he wrote "apparently, devon and hunter have joined the board of burisma and a press release went out today. i can't speak to why they decided to, but there is no investment by our firm in their company. what did hunter biden to do he stayed on the board. what did chris heinz do? he stopped doing business with his college roommate, devon archer and hunter biden. chris heinz's spokesperson said the lack of judgment in this matter it was a major catalyst for mr. chris heinz ending his business relationship wi

do john kerry or job i didn't agree with chris hines? if so, why not?he reason why joe biden is not material to these proceedings, the reason why this is a baseless smear, the issue is and if hunter biden should've sat on the board are not set on the board, the issue isn't if he was properly compensated or improperly compensated or he speaks ukrainian or doesn't speak ukrainian. what the president asked for is an investigation of joe biden. the smear against joe biden is that he sought to fire a prosecutor because he was trying to protect his sodden. i guess that's the nature of the allegation. and that is a baseless smear. as we demonstrated as the unequivocal testimony in the house demonstrated, when the vice president sought the dismissal of a corrupt and incompetent prosecutor, it had nothing to do with hunter bide biden's position on the board. it had up to do with the fact that the state department's, or allies, the international monetary fund, or in unanimous agreement that this prosecutor was corrupt. in the it would increase the chances of real

devon archer college roommates with chris hines, step sign of secretary of state john kerry. all three men, devon and chris and hunter started the investment firm together public rachet records show april 16, 2014 devon archer meets with vice president biden at the white house. and two days later on april 18, 2014 is when hunter biden quietly joins burisma according to publicin reports. remember this is just one month after the united kingdom opened a money-laundering case intoas burisma hunter biden joins the board. and only ten days later british authorities seized $23 million of a british bank account connected to the oligarch the owner of burisma. the british authorities also announced a criminal investigation into money-laundering that hunter biden leave the board? know. what happened then did they choose to announce that hunter biden had joined the board after the assets of burisma in the oligarch owner were frozen and a criminal investigation has begun. hunter biden's decision to join burisma raise flags almost immediately. and one article stated the up ointment of joe

did john kerry or joe biden agree with chris hines? if not, why not?eason why joe biden is not material to these proceedings, the reason why this is a baseless smear is that the issue is not whether hunter biden should have sat on that board or not sat on that board. the issue is not whether hunter biden was properly compensated or improperly compensated or whether he speaks ukrainian or doesn't speak ukrainian. what the president asked for was an investigation against joe biden and the smear against joe biden was he sought to fire an investigator because he was trying to protect his son. i guess that's the nature of the allegation. and that is a smear. as the house demonstrated, when the vice president sought the dismissal of a corrupt and incompetent prosecutor, it had nothing to do with hunter biden's position on the board. it had everything to do with the state department, our allies, the international monetary fund were in unanimous agreement that this prosecutor was corrupt. and the uncontradicted testimony was also in getting rid of that prosecu

did jon kerry or joe biden agree with chris hines? if not, why not? >> just as the reason joe biden is not material to these proceedings, the reason why this is a baseless smear, is that the issue is not whether hunter biden should have sat on that board or not set on that board. the issue is not whether hunter biden was properly compensated or improperly compensated. or if he speaks ukrainian or doesn't speak ukrainian. with the president asked for was an investigation of joe biden. and the smear against joe biden is that he sought to fire a prosecutor because he was trying to protect his son. i guess that's the nature of the allegation. and that is a baseless smear as we demonstrated the unequivocal testimony in the house demonstrated when the vice president sought the dismissal of a corrupted incompetent prosecutor, it had nothing to do with hunter biden's position on the board. and everything to do with the state department, our allies, international monetary fund will use an unanimous agreement that this prosecutor was corrupt. and the onion cont

what did chris hines do?sequently stopped doing business with his college roommate, devon archer, and his friend, hunter biden. chris hines' spokesperson said the lack of judgment in this matter was a major catalyst for mr. hines' ending his business relationship with mr. archer and mr. biden. now, the media also noticed the same day an abc news reporter asked obama white house press secretary about it. >> hunter biden is not taking a position with the largest oil and gas company in ukraine. is there any concern about, at least the appearance of a conflict there? >> i would refer you to the viesz president's offices. i saw those reports. hunter biden anduct other membe of the biden family are obviously private citizens. where they work is not reflected endorsement by the administration or by the vice president or president. but i would refer you to the vice president's office. >> the next day "the washington post", said, the appointment of the vice president's son to a ukrainian oil board looks nepotistic at

we all remember the email that chris hines sent. keep this in mind.he stepson of the secretary, then secretary of state, john kerry. he sends an official email to the state department, to the chief of staff, to john kerry, and his special assistant. the subject is ukraine. there's no question when you look at that email that it's a warning shot to say, i don't know what they're doing, but we're not invested in it. he's taking a giant step back. and think about the words and remember the video that we saw about hunter biden. what did he say? i'm not going to open my kimono. i'm not going to open my kimono. when he was asked how much money he was making. in one month, in one month alone, hunter biden and his partner made as much, almost as much as every senator and congressman, just in one month alone what you earn in a year. and you didn't think that merits inquiry? does anyone here think, when they say it's a debunked investigation that didn't happen that we wouldn't remember if there was testimony of hunter biden, joe biden, secretary of state john k

they can call chris hines who was his business partner who broke business ties with hunter biden overe informed the state department he was doing so. the contract was corrupt and they can bring in his dealings in china and romania. and then they can bring joe biden in to say why didn't you read o yourself? >> dana: do you think anyone on the democratic side thinks calling for witnesses is a double-edged sword? >> no, i don't think anybody else and i think they think this is the total destruction and an effort to again pull attention away from the president who is being impeached for two specific articles. so when you get into this, you can say, you know vladimir putin is out there and he says of russia didn't fear, ukraine interfered. why don't we bring in witnesses about that. just look at the public opinion post. so it might be an effective strategy to confuse people but i think would also anchor people and that is not to the good of republicans. >> dana: i don't think anyone's going to call for vladimir putin to be witness at trial, although some people might like that spectacle. t

that anybody opens their mouth about the biden question why he was hired to do this work and why chris hinesas also hired to do it, it gets immediately shut down the nobodies allowed to talk about it. nobody's allowed to say, well, that's a question. maybe it's not illegal but maybe it's unethical, a sign of what people worry about in terms of influence and making money above political positions. why is that not an area that we are able to look into? >> there are two questions. one, should it be a part of the impeachment trial? rudy giuliani says his epithets will be he lied for trump. maybe not the single best calling card for whatever he's pushing in the in's incidentally if you got something, why doesn't he put it out there now which will help him climb bett better. >> martha: he's doing in a podcast... >> let's look at it. if the senate wants to look at what hunter biting dead, they should look at nepotism broadly. look at the trademarks that ivanka god. look at the real estate that jared from sold to the qataris. >> martha: i see what you are saying. those are businesses they were in fo

we all remember the email that chris hines sent. keep this in mind.is the stepson of the secretary, then secretary of state john kerry. he sent an official email to the state department t to the chieff staff john carey and his special assistant. the subject is ukraine. there is no question that when you look at that email that it's a warning shot to say, i don't know what they are doing but we are not invested in it. he is taking a giant step back. think about the words and remember the video that we saw about hunter biden. what did he say? i'm not going to open my kimono when he was asked how much money he was making? hunter biden and his partner, almost as much as every senator. if you don't think that merits inquiry, does anyone think that when they say it's a debunked investigation that did not happen that we wouldn't remember if there was testimony of hunter biden, joe biden, secretary of state john kerry, his stepson? his business partner? business staff in special assistant? how can you tell the american people it doesn't merit inquiry when our

chris hines, the abc white house reporter. abc, "good morning america," "the washington post," "the new york times," ukrainian law enforcement, and the obama state department itself. they all thought there was cause to raise the issue about the biden ands and burisma. now the house managers might s say, they said everything that they just that had been debunked, the evidence points entirely and unequivocally in the other direction. that is a distraction. you heard from the house managers. they do not believe that there was any concern to raise here. that all of this was baseless. all we are saying is that there was a basis to talk about this, to raise this issue. and that is enough. i yield my time. >> thank you, mr. chief justice. >> dana: that was pam bondi. presenting a portion of the president's legal defense team case to focus mostly on marie's mama and hunter biden's relationship. also showed a clip of joe biden who mostly brag about his role in carrying out united states policy which was at that time the fire that parti

we all remember the e-mail that chris hines is sent. keep this in mind, he is the stepson of the secretary then secretary of state jon kerry. he sends an official e-mail to the state department to the chief of staff, to jon kerry and his special assistant. the subject is ukraine. there is no question when you look at that e-mail that it is a warning shah to say i don't know what they are doing, but we are not invested in it. and we are taking a giant step back. and think about the words, remember the video we saw about hunter biden. what did he say? i am not going to open my kimono. i am not going to open my kimono when he was asked how much money he was making. in one month, and one month alone, hunter biden and his partner made as much -- almost as much as every senator and congressman justin one month alone what you learned in the year. and you don't think that merits inquiry? does anyone here think, when they sits up debunked investigation that didn't happen, that we wouldn't remember? if it was testimony of hunter biden, joe biden,

chris hines certainly understood the sensitivity to our u.s. foreign policy. chris heinz. and what does the secretary of state's stepson say about hunter biden and devon archer say? >> apparently they both joined the board of burisma and a press release went out today. i can't speak to why they decided to, but there was no investment by our firm in the company. what is the most telling thing about this? it is clear that the chief of staff and the special assistant to the secretary already knew who devon was because mr. heinz did not include his last name. it's just devon. and they obviously knew who hunter was because, again, it's hunter biden. this is chris heinz saying, i can't speak to why they decided to join the board of burisma. he is their business partner. not that they're are good corporate reasons and going there for good corporate government. not that they're there to enhance corporate transparency. not that they're there to further u.s. policy. not this they're there to help fight corruption in ukraine. not that they are there to ensure that boards of director'

did john kerry or joe biden acree with chris hines? if not why not?eason why joe biden is not material to these proceedings, the reason why this is a baseless smear is that the issue is not whether hunter biden should have sat on that board or not sat on that board. the issue is not whether hunter biden was properly compensate order improperly compensated or whether he speaks ukrainian or he doesn't speak ukrainian. what the president asked for was an investigation of joe biden. and the smear against joe biden is that he so the to fire a prosecutor because he was trying to protect his son. i guess that's the nature of the allegation. and that is a baseless smear. as we demonstrated, as the unequivocal testimony in the house demonstrated, when the vice president so the the dismissal of a corrupt and incompetent prosecutor it had nothing to do with hunter biden's position on the board. it had everything to do with the fact the state department, our monetary fund were in unanimous agreement that this prosecutor was corrupt. and the uncontradicted testimo

did jon kerry or joe biden agree with chris hines? if not, why not?>> just as the reason joe biden is not material to these proceedings, the reason why this is a baseless smear, is that the issue is not whether hunter biden should have sat on that board or not set on that board. the issue is not whether hunter biden was properly compensated or improperly compensated. or if he speaks ukrainian or doesn't speak ukrainian. with the president asked for was an investigation of joe biden. and the smear against joe biden is that he sought to fire a prosecutor because he was trying to protect his son. i guess that's the nature of the allegation. and that is a baseless smear as we demonstrated the unequivocal testimony in the house demonstrated when the vice president sought the dismissal of a corrupted incompetent prosecutor, it had nothing to do with hunter biden's position on the board. and everything to do with the state department, our allies, international monetary fund will use an unanimous agreement that this prosecutor was corrupt. and the onion contr