the two pastry chefs who started it, chris hoover and walker who is sam's wife, supplied all the pastriesakeries for the market. they found a space on the block to do that and the ice cream kind of came as an afterthought. they realized the desire for ice cream and we now have lines around the corner. so, that's been a huge success. >>> in 2008, sam started 18 reasons, which is our community and event space where we do five events a week all around the idea of bringling people closer to where the food comes from and closer to each other in that process. >> 18 reasons was started almost four years ago as an educational arm of their work. and we would have dinners and a few classes and we understood there what momentum that people wanted this type of engagement and education in a way that allowed for a more in-depth conversation. we grew and now we offer -- i think we had nine, we have a series where adults learned home cooking and we did a teacher training workshop where san francisco unified public school teachers came and learned to use cooking for the core standards. we range all over t

chris? >> michelle thanks. let's get into that and those questions, we want to bring in john avlon and margaret hoover. john is editor in chief of the daily beet. and margaret is a cnn political commentator, republican consultant and a sirius xm host. highs and lows for you, john? >> the highs were a lot of the ad libs you got the level of authenticity. even when he pushed back on the sarcastic claps about not being able to run again. the lows were when he talked about the bipartisanship but the proposals didn't add up and i thought the joni ernst republican speech was stale. >> meaning her delivery? >> yes. >> the low is total lack of acknowledging he's faking the largest republican majority since 1920. he made no acknowledgement that all of the proposals he was suggesting have absolutely zero chance of passing. so it was incredibly defiant and that's a low, that's not in the gesture and ethos of being able to get done in the next in the next two years. the high was there was this moment of authenticity. there was this brief moment where i felt like everybody leaned in to see if he would take some res

chris always used to talk about what an incredible athlete, he loved to play. but he really only wanted to play if he could win. governor i want to play you some sound. and john hooverecond piece of sound. how governor cuomo said he wanted to be remembered. let's listen to this. >> one of the simple things i wanted to achieve is i want to be governor i want to be the hardest-working there ever was and i want when it's over and i figured on four years at first, i want people to say now there was an honest person. >> that's what any good public servant wants, isn't it governor? >> yeah but he was real. there are a lot of people frankly in politics you and i probably both know who, not that they're bad people. but have other bottom lines. and they're not -- he was totally honest. his word was good. when he said something to me when we were talking about what authority should do or something like that he gave me his word. that was gold. i mean that word and it didn't matter if it was politically right. one time he told me you know agreed to do something and then it turned out new york city didn't like it and mayor koch was complaining about it and giving him problems. i