i'm joined now by chris hopson who is ceo of nhs providers. thanks forjoining. thanks for joining.orjoining. firstly, explain your problems with testing. we know the most important group of people the most important group of people the government want to test at the moment and the government recognise this our patients and staff showing symptoms. the problem is if you just focus on the number of tests being done on a particular day, april 30th,100,000, done on a particular day, april 30th, 100,000, the reality is what you potentially ignore as there are lots of places and we know this is the case where health and care staff and patients can't actually get the tests they need and get them turned around as quickly as they need. let me give an example. i was talking to a trust yesterday which about a week ago was managing to have tests turned around in about a day, but 110w turned around in about a day, but now because of chemical reagent shortages and lack capacity problems they are actually having to wait five days for tests to come back. of course, if you are a member of staff who