joining us tonight anaÏs chris horner senior fellow of the competitive center -- enterprise instituteou with us and let me ask you this because at this point how winding is th agreement? we are hearing that there are all sorts of legal ramifications if president trump withdraws from something that's not entirely clear we ever entered. >> there are no legal ramifications or remedies if the president keeps his promise to cancel u.s. participation in this deal. i sympathize with the confusion over the mixed messages. the "washington post" said that voluntary tuesday into the terms don't mean anything. you guys do it you want but ultimately it's the most important agreement since nato. if you want to know which one is the untrue position you can just look at the furious campaign including the resistance and the swamp to make sure president trump works as promised. the kyoto treaty wasn't legally binding. npr if you look it up said it's not only rhetorically, they don't claim to be legally binding and they generally don't claim to be treaties. this is a treaty. lou: it is a treaty. it has