>> chris inglis: theoretically, yes.always been an unbreakable code. >> miller: chris inglis is deputy director of the n.s.a. among the areas he supervises are the code-breakers. he says, each summer, 10,000 high school students apply for a few openings. >> inglis: we clear them fully. we give them full access to our problems. we give them problems that we could not solve. and they solve some number of those problems, the principle reason being that they bring a different perspective and audacity to it that we hadn't thought about in all the years of experience that we've brought to bear. >> miller: so you've had occasions where you've given a difficult problem to a high school kid with a top-secret clearance whose come back and said "hey, i think i got this one"? >> inglis: for any given summer, that's more often the rule than the exception. we're always pleasantly surprised. >> miller: while high school kids on summer break may be cracking secret codes, this is still a spy agency that steals secrets, reads emails, and

we haven't been talking about is the deputy right now is a civilian, chris inglis is a career officialons as you walk through them, it seems more kind of words than substance. >> people from your community are contacting saying don't let the pendulum swing the other way. this isn't stop and frisk, this is spy, terrorism. greenwald and snowden, are they starting to be looked at differently through the lens of analysis as we learn more about the programs, what needs to change and that there are big problems? >> i think that -- the answer depends on who you ask. >> i'm asking you, fran townsend. >> my opinion of snowden hasn't changed. i think what he did is a crime. i think he ought to pay the consequences of that. i understand there's a community of people out there who believe he's 'hea hero. when you see the president ask for and get a report with 46 recommendations as a result of the leaks of snowden, has there been consequences to that leak and consequences on the community? absolutely. >> do you think he'll face, from a political perspective, do you think if he didn't the adopt a m