chris ingram says rubio could immediately resolve the issue by just releasing the records. >> i think could certainly come up with them. he's admitted and acknowledged to me that he has the records, the american express statements for the period of two years. >> reporter: ingram shared this e-mail exchange with cnn that he had with rubio in 2009 in which rubio was trying to explain personal charges on his republican party card. it is virtually the same explanation rubio still gives today. any personal charges were paid by me directly and it's not a republican party of florida card. it is my card opened under the corporate division of amex using my personal credit. ingram says if he were advising rubio today, he would tell him the same thing he says he told hip back then, release the records and end the controversy. but chris ingram flatly says telling the actual truth is just not the marco rubio he knows. >> i think that maybe he doesn't see the real truth as being important and i think that he sees that his indiscretions are not really a problem. >> so why hasn't the senator released

the same thing he says he told them back then, release the records and end the controversy but chris ingram flatly says telling the actual truth is just not the marco rubio he knows. >> i think that maybe he doesn't see the real truth as being important and i think that he sees that his indiscretions are not really a problem. >> so why hasn't the senator released the records? has he ever given a reason? >> well, when first asked in 2010, he says he wasn't going to release them and they were private property. he wasn't required to release them. he's changed his tune. now he's under fire by national press under pressure to release them so now he says he will release them as soon as he can get those records together. >> but so far, he's yet to release any of the records voluntarily at this point. >> correct. those two years of records that we sited, they came from a leak and so far no other records have surfaced publicly. >> drew griffin, thanks very much. we'll be right back. what super poligrip does for me is it keeps the food out. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures