can tell you that it's being challenged in court already, this deferment you are talking about by chris kovac who if mr. romney wins will probably be the next secretary of homeland security which i think is interesting. but i want to make one point that sandy brought up there are about 75,000 people who fall into this profile, this category, agewise. of that 75,000, only about a thousand to 2,000, to 3,000 are eligible for this dream act benefit, which the taxpayers are going to pay for. it is kind of elitist. now what about the other 72,000 young people in maryland who are here illegally that can't get that benefit, that are discriminated against. they don't get an extra benefit. >> you're the last person that i would think would play the get-- engage in class warfare by saying that something is elitist. >> the truth is the truth. >> no, it's not, no, it's not. let me tell you what the truth is. helping some people is not at the expense of other people. this is not what this country is all about. >> this country is all about helping everybody. >> you will support that pros poal. >> i bet you

out of the way during the primary embrace that endorsements and issued a statement saying that chris kovac was a great leader on the fight against illegal immigration. i don't think it was necessarily governor romney's idea, it was, i think, the idea of many g.o.p. establishment strategists that you run a campaign during the primary, being a restriction as being anti-immigrant and then after the election you do what i call the old switcheroo, you change or soften your position. the problem with that is that it's very condescending, because latinos were listening. so after the election when you say, well, i didn't mean a model for the nation, i meant a model for the states, and then you say i didn't mean the entire arizona law, i meant a portion of it, people are like we just don't trust you. so in the end i think the vote was for obama because they didn't trust romney on the immigration question, they didn't like the rhetoric. and there was no reason for this, because as i say, the majority of the american people want to see immigration reform. and this is something very important, and thi