elliot: i think those are excellent points, and going back to the statement that got chris krebs fire, looking back on it, to your point about the federal government does not work in a vacuum, it works with state, local, and private partners, that statement that became so controversial, at least to the president, was actually a joint statement that included the chairman of the election assistance commission, the secretary of state association, various parties across our federal and state governments, as well as private entities. can you talk a little bit about how that office deals with state partners? michael: the office we are talking about at dhs is basically a cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency, and it is what we used to call by a different name, but basically it has the principle dhs responsibility to secure infrastructure against terrorists attacks or similar efforts to undermine security. in 2060, as we began to experience a rise in russian disinformation, the then-secretary of homeland security, jeh johnson, made the election one of the critical priorities of the

chris krebs, thank you for your time.ior national correspondent mark strassmann to take a look at events around the country. here is his report. >> reporter: vengeance is ours, sayeth the mob. >> i'm really glad. it needed to happen. >> reporter: days after mega mania rampaged through an american sanctuary. was the moment heroic or horrific. partisans got in each oher's faces. but for some trump loyalists, it's an inflectionpoint. >> you can be disappointed, whatever, but you can't go in and ransack public places like that. >> count me out. >> reporter: trump die-hards turned on lindsey graham after that. >> welcome to a new america, lindsey graham. >> reporter: this video shows the first family wednesday morning, right before the president's inflammatory speech. > a couple hours later, the mob trampled the constitution, and rosanne boyland -- >> the president's words incited a riot that killed four of his biggest fans. >> reporter: and protestors stormed the washington state governor's mansion, and more protests in arizo

chris. christopher krebs, chris krebs, thank you so much. i really appreciate you joining us. try to have a good weekend if that's possible, at this point. thank you very much. so, as you saw, cnn just got new video of one of the areas that was breached at the capitol, this week. an officer, being crushed. police officers there, doing everything they can to try to keep that mob back and out of the capitol. and 13 people, now, are facing federal charges over that riot at the capitol. one of my next guests was there. and he witnessed rioters calling for the vice president to be hanged. stay with us. for skin that never holds you back don't settle for silver #1 for diabetic dry skin* #1 for psoriasis symptom relief* and #1 for eczema symptom relief* gold bond champion your skin >>> i want you to pay attention to this segment because, maybe, you can help out. i really mean it. and you never know if you have information because law enforcement, tonight, asking for your help bringing the rioters who to rememberstormed the capi justice. pay attention. look at the screen. with several

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we know wolf did not confirm chris krebs who oversaw sisa. getting into the weetds here. that is the person that president trump fired for not saying there was a rigged election. we know chad wolf did not personally fire chris krebs. we don't know how much he defended him. there's already this friction that started at the end of the election between acting secretary chad wolf and the president. this looks at how it is coming to an end. it's hard to under emphasize how important chad wolf's position is, not in a political sense, but in a security sense when we're talking about the stakes that we are seeing here play out firsthand. >> the president's position is very important. however, chuck schumer just put out a statement calling for the president to be removed immediately. kelly o'donnell, we're getting an additional statement, not in response to chris schumer, but another issue related to yesterday from the white house. what have you learned? >> well, one of the white house press officers who we deal with regularly, judd deere put out a statement in the voice of the wh

we had chris krebs testify. chris krebs said, you know, it's the most secure election, but in our hearing, he admitted, well, he wasn't talking about potential fraud. he was just looking at hacking. he also admitted that some of these election and tabulation machines are hooked up to the internet, which privately told me that that wasn't the case. so, again, i didn't criticize democrats when they were talking about potential hacking of voting machines, but now it's i quackery, it's conspiracy theory? problem, chuck. there's a double standard here and we are not being transparent and we are dismissing the concerns of tens of millions of americans. again, i didn't light this fire. this fire's lit over four years ago and we have destroyed the credibility -- you have destroyed the credibility of the news media by your bias. and of course, people like james comey, andrew mccabe, john brennan destroyed the credibility of the fbi and our justice system as well. we have an enormous problem in this country. it's unsustai

. >> reporter: chris krebs is the former chief of cybersecurity at the department of homeland security you feel, looking in the rear-view mirror at the american election of 2020? >> i know that it was, in fact, a secure election. the challenge we had, though, is the fact that the president of the united states and his supporters continued to propagate, promulgate, those lies. and that is a very challenging opponent in this sense. >> reporter: when krebs, a lifelong republican, announced that there was no evidence the election was stolen or rigged, he was fired by trump. in a tweet. >> i had just gotten home. it was approximately -- it was exactly 7:06 p.m. on november 17th. i got a text from a colleague that said, you just got fired by tweet. and i said, no way, that's not possible. lo and behold, i fire up twitter, and there it is in all its glory, that i had been terminated. >> what was it like for you to get the backlash from trump supporters? >> it's always upsetting to get -- you know, potentially intimidating, to get death threats and other character assassinations. but i, you kn

fired cisa director chris krebs, the one who said it was the most secure election ever, the one who said foreign actors, of course, failed to detect the attack that had been underway for just about a year when the election was underway. so what happens to him? he took responsibility which i'll give him credit for. but now he's been hired by the very same firm which acted as the facilitator for the russian agents and now will be acting as a consultant for the firm that was duped. microsoft, by the way, is the one who alerted solarwinds of the issue. krebs was repeatly flagged for poor performance, by the way, by government watchdogs, so now you have a firm that failed hiring a so-called executive from the intelligence, cyber intelligence arena who failed. quite a combination. joining us now is john solomon, editor-in-chief of "just the news" and best selling author, great american. great to have you with us. i have to say these first few days of the president-elect's, well, his tone and temper, it's just, it's fascinating. elections really do have consequences, and i have a feeling people

former dhs cybersecurity official chris krebs, he's next. >>> so it took a deadly riot to ♪ ♪ ♪ whenrive this smooth, you save with allstate. the future of auto insurance is here. you've never been in better hands. allstate. click or call for a quote today. you've never been in better hands. it's moving day. and are doing the heavy lifting, jess is busy moving her xfinity internet and tv services. it only takes about a minute. wait, a minute? but what have you been doing for the last two hours? delegating? oh, good one. move your xfinity services without breaking a sweat. now that's simple, easy, awesome. xfinity makes moving easy. go online to transfer your services in about a minute. get started today. i also need to warn you what you are about to see in this video is really disturbing, okay? so there is a warning, if you have kids. fair warning. so these are rioters at an entrance on the west side of the capitol trying to force their way in. look. >> just go home, okay? you see me. just go home. go home! i am not hurting you. >> so, obviously, that's new video. oh, my gosh, into c

listen to chris krebs. >> that's government impeding speech and the ability to hear. that's not what is happening here. these are companies that have their own ability to enforce their standard and their policies. >> now, president trump says no problem. he's considering standing up to his own social media platform of his own. the rub is that it would require a billion dollars in investment. they don't know of anybody that is willing to step up to the plate now the big five are turning against the president. >> bill: thanks, gillian. more on the impeachment front. house democrats introducing the resolution today. mike emanuel reporting on that in d.c. now. mike? >> bill, good afternoon. this new impeachment resolution says president trump gravely endangered the security of the united states and the institutions of government. he threatened the integrity of the democratic system, interfered with the peaceful transition of power and imperilled a co-equal branch of government. it's likely house lawmakers will vote open impeachment and democrats expect to have enough supp

this next guest put the country first and let's bring chris krebs. ctor after rejecting the false claims of widespread voter fraud and he tweeted out yesterday, quote, what did they think would happen? they own this. chris, good to have you with us this morning. you tried to call out this disinformation, you did call out the disinformation, you lost your job because of it. what is your reaction to what you saw yesterday? >> i -- it's unbelievable that what happened yesterday happened. there will be, you know, one more investigation at the next administration will have to look at in terms of what the breakdown was at the capitol. but just the fact that we had -- you can't even call it protesters, right, but insurrectionists storming the capitol. the confederate flag in the capitol building never got there in 1800's and it's appalling. i think the sitting officials in the u.s. government right now have some decisions -- hard decisions that they need to make. >> yeah. having said that, just watching these videos again and sitting here one day after, chri

solar winds has hired chris krebs as an independent consultant the tech company found itself in the middledal after its own soft wware was us by hackers president trump fired krebs in november after he said that the election was not rigged. >>> and fourth quarter operating profit rose 26% in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic for samsung and of course that comes as remote working and tv consumption has driven demand for chip shipments and display sales. >> like what we're doing, you're there, i'm here, it takes a lot of computing power to make this happen >> yes, it does. the magic of television. >> all right, rahel, we'll see you in a bit by the way, dill pickle, nothing better now to washington and the latest on what we know about the terrible wednesday on capitol hill president trump finally conceding the election and saying in a video statement last night that his focus is now on, quote, ensuring a smooth orderly and seamless transition of power but despite that, there are still growing calls for action against the president. and the body poe invocation of the 25th amendment to remo

but we're also hearing from people like chris krebs, the former cyber security chief from the u.s. who resigned, who was actually fired after he refused to talk about false allegations of voter fraud. he says this is a good first step. and amid all of this, alex, twitter standing firm behind their decision saying they did this because of the risk that the president was going to continue to use twitter to incite violence. twitter also saying in a statement that there has also been discussion on and off their platforms about a potential secondary attack on the capitol on the 17th of january, just a few days before the president is set to be inaugurated. one of the key reasons that twitter is taking action now to make sure that kind of conversation can't be taking place on their platform. >> we're going to be getting into that, that's for sure. in addition, we talk with a congresswoman in a moment about the prospect of impeachment. let me know if you've heard anything officially or what's in the ether in that building behind you as there are discussions of impeachment on capitol hill.

i was actually talking to chris krebs, the former head of cybersecurity and homeland security just yesterday morning about this. this is going to be -- there's a lot of legal risk for companies that are exposed as a consequence and there's a lot of cost involved in dealing with it. >> back in 2015 i actually asked then candidate trump which leaders he would call on the first day of his presidency if he won and his approach could not have been any more different than president biden's. take a look at this. >> you're in the oval office. it's your first day. first week. who are the first four global leaders you're calling on the phone? >> i may not call any global leaders. i think i'd probably have them call me. >> probably have them call him. we know a lot has happened since then. ion bremmer, you and i are going to have a lot to talk about in the coming months. thank you for joining us this morning. >>> up next, president biden will sign two executive orders on covid economic relief today. but this is just a start. what does the administration need to do to get the senate on word for a new mu

there are trump appointees, people who worked in the administration or appointed by trump, like chris krebs, who did their jobs with integrity and really made things better and we probably would be in worse shape if they had quit or not taken the job. what i want you to do is take a step back and understand the moral collective action problem. each of these small incremental decisions, these justifiable decisions, yes, i will work in this agency, and, no, i won't speak out about what the president is doing, think about what that all adds up to, what it all has added up to. we are standing over a moral abyss with the country imperilled. only ten republicans in the house voted to impeach donald trump after he incited a mob while his vice president was inside the capitol. as far as i can tell, there have been two congressional staffer resignations since the riot and sense a majority of republicans voted to overturn the election. two. one and two. the communications director for senator ted cruz who resigned in protest but didn't issue a statement and the armed services committee staffer who wr

. >>> just before air i spoke with chris krebs, a former senior cybersecurity official for the departmenty fired by president trump after he rejected the president's election conspiracy theories. much of our discussion was about what we heard before the break, what he thinks law enforcement must do to sift through the incredible number of potential thefts directed at government enities to prevent the sort of attack we saw on capitol hill. >> the acting secretary of homeland security resigning, does that have practical implications for security in the capitol ahead of the inauguration? >> so it is certainly not what you would want to see, right, in terms of consistency and continuity in a leadership position. my understanding, at least in the acting secretary's farewell letter, that the fema administrator will be stepping in to that role and pete gainer is a marine officer. he is an emergency manager. he knows how to run events, so he should be effective in that role, and the fact that one of the last things chad wolf did as acting secretary was move up the activation of the national speci

the republicans agreed with the aims of the insurrectionists, of overthrowing the results of what chris krebs calls the most secure election in american history by undemocratic means. ari melber, you always make me think, and we should do this more. if you want the come to work early, you know, we could make it a thing. >> you got it. i think we'll be busy. i appreciate you reporting and your clarity tonight, nicolle, and i'll see you again soon. >> thank you, my friend. i'm joined again by john heilemann, jason johnson, david jolly and jen palmieri. david, i want to come back to you, because like ari just now, what you said is a gut punch to me. this president hasn't just been impeached a second time. he has been impeached for the first time of insurrection against his country. how do we -- there is so much processing of grief, if you care about the institutions of the government, of anxiety if you watch trump war with the results of the election and you just worried that he'd never go, but now there is this despair for what all this enabling from the republican party ushered in. it ushered

we have chris krebs, the former director of cybersecurity and infrastructure and the infrastructure securityns that we already have seen from our own analysis of social media? >> good morning. thanks for having me on. that's right. it's not just about washington, d.c. and the inaugural. i will give a lot of credit to the transition team you saw overnight that they asked the nominee for the deputy attorney general to, you know, slot in and help for coordination with law enforcement. that's lisa monaco, former homeland security adviser. but to the bigger point, this is not just about washington, d.c. and i think the show of force with 20,000 national guard members should be a deterrent enough where a number of otherwise protesters or insurrectionists may go to their state capitals instead. and they are planning for 50 state capitals. and pro-trump rallies or whatever you want to call them to expect those sorts of things. but i would also suggest this is going to be an opportunity for some of the accelerationists, where they will target infrastructure. the electricity grid, telecommunications i

. >> even republicans like chris krebs have said there was no fraud, that 92 judges appointed by democratshat it wasn't real? >> nicole, i literally -- people wouldn't talk to me with my mask on. they think covid is -- the numbers are gross loo inflated. i had three guys, three ranchers in their 70s telling me, take your mask off, we don't want to talk yo to you with your mask on. i was in rooms with 30 people, no one wearing a mask inside, just me. i talked -- they said these are the main arguments i've heard over and over again. people aren't going the get vaccinated there. these people are distrustful of the vaccine. they think that either the insurrection was staged, it was antifa, they don't want to watch the news, they don't hear about it because it pollutes their thoughts about trump and it's just the same talking points that you're hearing from qanon and trump supporters and they're gospel. i couldn't say anything. i was like, do you know anyone who died from covid? because i do. and they just -- you couldn't reason. you know? it was hard. it was really difficult for me, because yo

chris krebs, doing -- and now preparing for mobilization, so that's the capacity problem.ou keep your sensors on all of this? the fbi cannot pursue these groups, these extremist groups, which, by the way, are better trained and have more weapons than any of the international -- they do not have the authorities or the tools legally to do it in the same way. they use a totally different root book. we don't have domestic terrorism deciding nation, which is something we can debate, but director wray can't go and say we know this group of militia members is plotting and planning. they have to treat it as individual cases. >> that would explain why they are only apprehended on the precipice of something like planning to kidnap the governor of michigan. >>> the very latest from team biden with nine days to go until inauguration. n with nine days tl inauguration 's skyrizi. 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months after just 2 doses. skyrizi may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. before treatment, your doctor should check you for

pieces of evidence of that fact, but every republican who voted to overturn the results of what chris krebslife-long republican, most senior election security official described as the most secure election in history did so after the insurrection. they did so after the mob came to kill the vice president and members of congress. and so these pictures will always look different. this will not feel normal in any sense. when we see them assembled there together today. >> senator menendez of new jersey, senator leahy and senator schumer. nicolle, we can't repeat it often enough that you can hear the chant on videotape, hang mike pence. you can hear the search for the speaker's office and the speaker. there of course the clintons arrival. across the highly polished floors of the crypt. >> it will be interesting, brian, to see what sort of public and political profile each of the clintons have during the biden administration. they obviously have good relationships with everybody in the current administration, the incoming administration, but hillary clinton was such an interesting figure in terms

. >> director brennan, chris krebs tweeted that he has been trying to combat the disinformation himself, that donald trump has been pumping into the information ecosystem that obviously all of his supporters drink from, and i wonder what you think about that broader question. we first started talking to you on all of our programs about russian disinformation. it would seem now looking at these images on our screen the gravest threat is domestic disinformation, donald trump's disinformation. >> i think we all have a responsibility to try to prevent disinformation from getting into the nation's bloodstream. individuals in terms of not deceiving and lying others with their lies as donald trump has done. we need to make sure that the political parties also are able to exert some discipline on their members. yes, i understand partisanship and hyperbole, but there have been mischaracterizations, misrepresentations of the facts which are then enabled by newscasts and individuals and other networks that try to continue to stoke these fires which are leading to this insurrection and sedition tha

he did not bring that up when it came down to chris krebs who said this election has been the pure pestn entities, and he talked about the substance of his investigation that his network never covered. >> you know, i really think that chuck todd here did just a terrible job, but it's to be expected from a lot of these corporate media entities who have essentially looked away from anything that they dislike, anything that they don't want to cover about what's happened the last several years. they've pretended like things have been the way they wanted them to be as opposed to the way that they actually are. it's humpty dumpty e and through the looking glass. words mean what i want them to mean as opposed to the actual definition, and that's something that i think is going to be a continuing problem in the future because this is not going to a situation where they change or alter any of their behavior. and we've learned that from the last several years. we've seen the degree to which they're willing to participate in this, you know, ridiculous and over the top, you know, approach to coveri