chris and roberta laundrie as well. >> dana: about two weeks ago mr. laundrie joined the search, did they -- you probably don't know the answer to this, but it would be curious if they went to the spot. >> but these investigators asked chris laundrie to take them to areas they know we have been to before. what did he like to do? we were not sure what that meant, and when we saw chris laundrie going in and that golf cart singing around with investigators we were not sure what to make of it, did he point them in the direction? we have been hearing a lot about the water levels that have gone down in the 24 hours that led investigators to the discovery today. again, a backpack and a notebook believed to be brian laundrie's near the human remains, not making an identification at this point, dana. >> katie: laura, katie pelletier, want to talk to you about the timeline and the excruciating waiting that the family and our friends in her hometown have been going

these are the laundrie family who have shown up. chris and roberta laundrie, to see if whatever they've come across here could be that of their missing son. we have not heard a lot from them. their son is missing and they did not react the same way that the family of gabby petito reacted because we did not hear from them. this between one family let everybody know when we were part of that story. unfortunately, she perished and they found her. i do want to find out that the manhunt for brian petito, according to "the washington post," has led to five bodies a missing persons. we do not know what we are looking at. we are told that they went there but that we have not been told what the final verdict is. >> kayleigh: we want to make that clear. we do not know exactly what is in that white bag. we do know is that in a worldwide exclusive, this video obtained by fox news digital is showing the laundries and also them huddling with a law enforcement officer as they appeared to be showing the couple and on and on discovery. he appears to tell

." >> reporter: today brian laundrie's father chris laundrie assisting authorities in the search fore this morning, chris is seen entering the carlton reserve along with the police. the attorney for the family telling cnn brian's father spent more than three hours at the 25,000 acre reserve, assisting authorities in the search. chris was asked to point out any favorite trails or spots that brian may have used in the preserve, although chris and roberta laundrie provided this information verbally three weeks ago, it is now thought that onsite assistance may be better. brian reportedly told his parents he was headed to the reserve when they last saw him on september 13th. more than three weeks later and still no sign of gabby petito's fiance. the attorney for laundrie's parents telling cnn brian's parents believe he is still there, adding the parents see no reason to make a public call for brian to surrender to authorities because he says, quote, in short, the parents believe brian was and still is in the preserve. so there was no reason to issue a plea on media that he, brian, does no

. >> reporter: brian laundrie's father chris laundrie assisting authorities in the search for his son. after leaving his house alone this morning, chris is seen entering the carlton reserve along with police. the attorney for the family telling cnn brian's father spent more than three hours at the 25,000 acre reserve, assisting authorities in the search. chris was asked to point out any favorite trails or spots that brian may have used in the preserve, although chris and roberta laundrie provided this information verbally three weeks ago, it is now thought that on-site assistance may be better. brian reportedly told his parents he was headed to the reserve when they last saw him on september 13th, more than three weeks later, and still no sign of gabby petito's fiancee. the attorney for laundrie's parents telling cnn, brian's parents believe he is still there, adding, the parents see no reason to make a public call for brian to surrender to authorities because he says, quote, in short, the parents believe brian was and still is in the preserve. so there was no reason to issue a plea o

laundrie. these items were found in that area that up until recently had been underwater. >> so fox news digital catching chriserta laundrie at the reservoir earlier today, a search team overheard telling his parents he might've found something. telling police he had gone for a hike september 13th and then reported him missing after he did not return to their north port, florida, home for several days. cadaver dogs, a coroner's van, investigators all around the reserve today, the fbi announcing that the area will once again be close to the public after it was reopened to the public yesterday. i reached out to the family of gabby petito and their attorneys to say that the "gutfeld" family will not be making a comment today and do not have plans to do so in the near future. standing here today and blew point come as you mention gabby petito's hometown, a lot of people still awaiting answers as we all do from the fbi. >> greg: we will take it around the table, i have the first question, the laundrie parents decided to help with the investigation last night, surprise, surprise, they find the body the next day. i'm

according to their attorney, chris laundrie found a bag belonging to brian off one trail. law enforcement then located brian's backpack, then his remains. police say they're 100% confident the family did not bring any items with them. and laundrie family attorney calls the suggestion they planted items hog wash. >> i'm upset. i'm angry. and i don't feel that chris and roberta have been given a fair shake here. there have been so many accusations, so many nformed people. >> reporter: how brian died remains unknown. investigators would not comment when asked whether a weapon was found at the scene. >> if he left the house without a wallet and without a cell phone, it is a big indicator of suicide. >> reporter: meanwhile, petito's family reacting to the news only saying they are grieving the loss of their beautiful daughter. in a recent interview, petito's parents said they wanted brian to be caught alive. >> i want to look him in the eyes. >> i want to see him in a jail cell for the rest of his life, where he's an outdoorsman, being in that concrete cell, he can't go see the

fresh air like that. >> an outdoorsman that would be a cement box. >> reporter: we know that chris laundriel hours today. we talked to the attorney for laundrie's parents and he told us that he was able to get into areas that were more accessible today pause water had gone down. they went to areas brian was known to frequent but bottom line, no discoveries today. >> thank you so much. >>> a new report detailing just how far president trump went to try to overturn the presidential election and disenfranchise you. the details next. subway® has so much new it didn't fit in our last ad. like the new artisan italian and hearty multigrain bread. it's the eat fresh refresh™ at subway®. it's so much new there's no time for serena! wait, what?! sorry, we don't even have time to say they were created by world class bakers! oh, guess we did! seriously?! my bad. ♪ (music) ♪ staying on top of your game takes a plan. that's why at aetna, we take a total connected approach to your health and wellness. with medicare advantage plans designed to surround you with the care you need every day. aetna medicare a

and not long after those remains were identified as brian laundrie, law enforcement went to the home of chris where brian used to live with gabby petito, his fiancee, and alerted them that yes, indeed, those remains did belong to their son. one other note, wolf. you heard the attorney there mention this dry bag. i'm told by a source close to the investigation that near that dry bag is where that notebook was found. i'm told that it was quite wet, but they believe it is possibly salvageable. they're going to try and dry it out and see what's inside of it. but this is very important in case brian did write anything down about what happened to gabby, how she ended up dead. certainly the family and many others are going to want sentences. >> randi, thank you very much. let's get more on this. joining us now, forensic pathologist and deputy director, andrew mccabe. andrew, can you walk us through the fbi's role in identifying these remains as brian laundrie? what resources did the fbi devote to this effort? >> well, wolf, there's no question that this is a case that's been given all the resources

we are also just moments ago getting word from the laundrie family attorney that chris laundrie, brianer, has been asked to -- to take part in the search, to join the search in the carlton reserve for his son. apparently, as you know, that has been closed to the public. but the lawyer says that the family of both the mother and father of brian laundrie have been anxious to get into that reserve because it's the only place where they believe their son may be. so we don't know when that's going to happen, byut he has ben asked to join that search. and in terms of the timeline, anderson, the lawyer is also telling cnn that brian laundrie left home on september 13th now, which is actually a day earlier than we had originally been told by the family and by the lawyer. so now, that day is the day that the family says they saw him last. when he left home with just a backpack, leaving his cell phone and wallet behind. but if you take note of that date on the 13th, that's just two days after gabby petito was reported missing. so, he -- he seems to have disappeared on that day. and also, they re

then very quickly, chris laundrie came back to his house.ny questions about how this timeline unfolded, right? if we back up to september 11th, that was the date that gabby petito's family said she was missing. on the same day, the north port police came to the house and questioned the laundrie parents. they had their attorney on the cell phone and asked about gabby petito, they did not answer. that made investigators a bit suspicious. we're learning more information about the timeline since the august 12th dispute in utah since gabby petito was declared missing by her family and since brian laundrie disappeared. that date changed. that made the case interesting and confusing because the dates have changed and details have changed. the fbi said the investigation into finding brian laundrie is still ongoing this weekend. we have not seen much police activity in the weekend over at the carlton reserve. boris and laura. >> the family response is baffling. this is somebody they knew well and asked about gabby petito, they have no response. it do

chris laundrie arriving on site in this red pickup truck, departing about three and a half hours latere to join the search wednesday, but had to postpone his involvement. he said authorities asked the elder laundrie to show them the trails at the reserve brian was known to have used. the vast reserve at his home is the only place his parents believe he could be and he explained why they haven't issued a public plea to their son. in short the parents believe brian was and is in the reserve. there was no reason to issue a plea on media he does not have access to. gabby petito's family is pleading with the public to help find him telling dr. phil wednesday. >> i just hope he's found. i really do. no, i mean like alive. >> i want to look him in the eyes. >> i want to see him in a jail cell for the rest of his life. >> reporter: laundrie has not been charged in connection with petito's death but he is expected of using a debit card her family says belonged to her to access over $1,000 after her death. a federal warrant has been issued for his arrest. and there is more from laundrie family a

chris apparently showed investigators locations where he recently spent time with brian. the laundryily attorney says this was the first time chris landry had an opportunity to help because the preserve and then closed off to him and the public. a san francisco man is now facing multiple felony charges after police say he pointed a gun at several people at this photo shows weapons and drugs seized when police arrested 37 year-old, robert rather, kenneth roberts last week. the san mateo police department says several people reported that roberts pointed a gun making threats and then items from them with the assistance of police in daly city and brought more roberts was arrested on suspicion of 10 felonies. his charges include stocking manufacturing are assembling a firearm and possession of methamphetamine for sale. in the north bay. one person died this morning after they were trapped somehow under a bus outside. a winery happened just before noon at the core bell champagne cellars. this is on river road. if you're headed towards guerneville off one. oh, one you would take this accor

but yesterday chris laundrie, brian's father, went into the reserve with law enforcement, he showed them's lawyer some of brian's favorite spots that he would frequent in that reserve, also some of the trails that chris laundrie would hike with his son in that reserve. so they were certainly trying to use his father to help track the son if he is in there. but later in the day, the family lawyer released a statement saying that there were no discoveries and hopefully brian will be located soon. >> all right, randi, thank you so much for the new reporting. >>> coming up, why one hospital is refusing organ transplants to its unvaccinated patients. >>> plus, dr. sanjay gupta joins me live and i see now in person on where he thinks the pandemic is headed and if we finally turned a corner. i became a sofi member because i needed to consolidate my credit card debt. i needed just one simple way to pay it all off. it was an easy decision to apply with sofi loans, just based on the interest rate and how much i would be saving. there was only one that stood out and one that actually made sense and

in fact, two weeks ago chris laundrie, brian laundrie's dad went out they are to show some deputies and northport police officers, yeah, this is where he would often hikes, part trailheads. i hiked into that area after the police officers all left. a lot of trees, open space, there are picnic tables there, and it is adjacent to the carlton preserve which have been the initial focus. but you can walk from that trailhead at myakkahatchee creek environmental park, you can walk and get into the carlton reserve, which is 25,000 acres. it is a lot of green area, farmlands are connected as well. that is why at the beginning of the search it was certainly speculated that if he was hiking for ten hours a day he could have been a really long gone. >> sandra: i know that you will stay close as any more development happens. thank you. john? >> john: joining us by now is dr. michael baden, for a and fox news contributor. this is all very intriguing. the families attorney told fox news that brian laundrie's parents went to the myakkahatchee creek environmental park this morning. apparently they had i

we also were able to confirm with that lawyer that chris laundrie, brian laundrie's father, has no planse reserve to search again with law enforcement. >> how about tips, at this point? were -- we're a month or so in. are authorities still getting information from the public? >> reporter: yeah. the north port police, the spokesman told me they are getting tips and they're grateful that people are engaged and trying to help but some of them are really wacky, john, and they are taking away the resources and the time. in fact, just this week, police told me that they got a tip that somebody had been watching the laundrie parents gardening and they saw a hand come up through the soil and hand them a note. and then, they tipped off the police that they believed brian laundrie was living under the house and in the ground there. that is obviously not true. none of this has panned out, john. >> randi kaye, thank you as always for your reporting. appreciate it. >>> joining us now for perspective is criminal offense attorney mark o'mara. mark, you just heard from randi that according to the laundr

chris laundrie showing them trails where his son might have gone. laundrie, of course, a person of interest in the gabby petito case. >>> when we come back, more than a dozen former nba players facing federal charges tonight. i'm not getting through the pandemic just to end up with the flu. i asked for fluzone high-dose quadrivalent. it's the #1-used flu vaccine for people 65 and older. fluzone high-dose quadrivalent is the only vaccine approved by the fda fluzone high-dose quadrivalent m not letting my guard down. flone hi-dose quadrivafo any flu vaccine or vaccine component, including eggs or egg products. tell your health care professional if you've ever experienced severe muscle weakness after receiving a flu shot. people with weakened immune systems, including those receiving therapies that suppress the immune system, may experience lower immune responses. vaccination may not protect everyone. side effects include pain, redness, and/or swelling where you got the shot, muscle ache, headache, and general discomfort. other side effects may occur. a

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saying wednesday chris laundrie found a bag belonging to brian off one side of the trail, but law enforcement located brian's backpack and then the remains. >> at that point, the laundries were notified that there was also remains near the backpack and they were asked to leave the preserve. >> reporter: now, an autopsy will determine brian laundrie's cause of death and david, his parents' attorney says the family is asking for privacy and the attorney for gabby petito's family says they are not giving any interviews or statements right now, because they are grieving the loss of their daughter. david? >> trevor ault leading us off with the news from the fbi tonight. trevor, thank you. >>> now to the other major news just before we came on tonight. the cdc on booster shots, clearing another major hurdle at this hour. late today, an independent cdc advisory panel voting unanimously to recommend boosters from moderna and johnson & johnson now. boosters for all three vaccines now in this country. and the panel also paving the way to allow mixing and matching when getting your booster. tonight, onl

. >> there's no word from authorities that brian laundrie's parents chris and roberta laundrie are under investigation although they have been questioned by investigators. they have not taken a polygraph test. and their lawyer had no comment when asked if they would take one in the future. chris laundrie has gone to the carlton reserve to help investigators with their search. for days, there are two searches under way, for gabby and for brian. then on september 19, human remains are found in a camping area in teton county, wyoming. it's devastating news for the petito family. the fbi announces the remains belong to gabby. her death is ruled a homicide. >> there are times where it's difficult to tell the difference between an accident and an homicide. the coroner here came forward with a manner of death very quickly. so i suspect it's quite apparent that it was clear to him it was not an accident. >> in fact, the teton county coroner said someone strangled gabby. her cause of death was determined to be manual strangulation and throttling. the coroner also said gabby died three to four wee

this sort of separated with the police and with the investigators chris laundrie, bryant's father found what's called the drive back. the dry bag is just that something to keep things for hikers and campers dry inclement weather. it is dried out quite a bit here in florida over the last 2 to 3 weeks prior to that had been very, very wet and they feel like the receding waters, the receiving the receding swamp in the reserve is what led them to discover those remains. and again, there are still questions about those bags, how they got there when they were first found when they were discovered. and so for now there are many questions for the fbi and investigators to answer the most pressing, of course, whose remains were that in san francisco or an exactly. michael, thank you for that very shocking discovery. i guess the biggest question i would have >> what's next in this investigation? >> well, there are they are again that fbi report they're also the questioning of the parents of brian how much they knew when they knew it. those sorts of things. they have not been forthcoming with the a

. >> there's no word from authorities that brian laundrie's parents, chris and roberta laundrie, arealthough they have been questioned by investigators. they have not taken a polygraph test, and their lawyer had no comment when asked if they would take one in the future. chris laundrie has gone to the carlton reserve to help investigators with their search. for days there are two searches under way -- for gabby and for brian. then on september 19th, human remains are found in a camping area in teton county, wyoming. it's devastating news for the at the petito family. the fbi says the remains belong to gabby. her death is ruled a homicide. >> there are times where it's difficult to tell the difference between an accident and a homicide. the coroner here came forward with a -- a manner of death very quickly. so i suspect it's quite apparent that it was clear to him it was not an accident. >> in fact, the teton county coroner said someone strangled gabby. her cause of death was determined to be manual strangulation and throttling. the coroner also said that gabby died three to four week

it was interesting there was word that chris laundrie was asked to go into this area. tep in the fbi's investigation to trackdown brian laundrie. in the laundries are cooperating, that's great. >> sandra: a fascinating interview with both families there. thank you. >> mike: let's bring in chris a former assistant fbi director. welcome. first your reaction to what you heard from the petito family and laura's compelling interview? >> this is a parent's worst nightmare. i have 3 daughters. this is unspeakable. i can feel their pain. my heart goes out to them. i know the fbi is pulling out all of the stops. they are in full court press to find him. they will find him with the help of the u.s. marshals and nationwide dragnet and international dragnet. i have every confidence they will find him. my biggest concern is the homicide investigation. i want to know more details about that. the fbi has been very quiet about that. we know there is a lot of evidence out there. >> mike: there are reports of a camp site found in that swampy reserve area. your reaction? >> skept company.

we got a glimpse of chris laundry in the passenger seat of a golf cart in that search. e gabby petito's family is speaking to fox news about the man hunt for brian laundrie and the heart break of finding out that their daughter was killed. laura ingle reporting live from blue point, new york. hi, laura. >> hi, martha. it was a month ago this week when gabby petito's family knew something went wrong with their daughter's cross country trip. then they spoke about their reaction to finding out one of the most significant clues in this case when they learned that their daughter's white van showed up in florida without her. >> i screamed. i didn't mean to scream at the detective. i said where is my daughter. >> what did they say? >> they said i wish i knew the answer to that. >> gabby petito's money, nicole schmidt, remembers the moment she feared the most. >> the night the van was in floor, i knew my daughter wasn't here anymore. >> eight days later, the fbi called gabby's stepfather, jim schmidt who traveled to wyoming to help find her. >> it was the hardest phone call i ma

even his father, chris laundrie, went last week to that area with investigators. cnn asked some survival experts about what they thought about brian laundrie being able to survive for four weeks there, they all said it's pretty unlikely. listen to what his sister cassie said about her brother's survival skills. >> i'd say brian is a mediocre survivalist. it wouldn't surprise me if he could last a long time but i don't think anything would surprise me at this point. >> reporter: a laundrie attorney asked if he thought brian was still alive? he said he's hopeful. >>> now a 3-year-old boy in texas is now reunited with his family after he was lost in the woods for four days. christopher ramirez was found saturday in rough terrain five miles from his home after apparently wandering off while chasing a dog on wednesday. the boy was tired, hungry and dehydrated but otherwise okay. wonderful news. >>> now sunday was the second day the central u.s. has been hit by severe weather. the national weather service reported at least nine tornadoes in oklahoma on sunday night. a li

that bag was discovered by chris laundrie brian laundrie's father who was here with law enforcement searchingis son. the bag was found by him but i'm told the notebook was clearly wet and they are going to use any means possible to dry it out before even opening it but it is possibly salvageable. so of course that could have some real information for the family perhaps if this is brian laundrie. he might have written down what happened to gabby petito and they may get some answers. >> randi kaye in florida for us, thank you so much. >>> in our politics lead one of trump's big lie lawyers are now in charge of elections in texas. today republican governor greg abbott appointed a man named john scott to be interim secretary of state a position scott can now hold without confirmation for about two years. let's get to cnn's dianne gallagher. people might remember scott represented trump's fake fraud claims in the great commonwealth of pennsylvania. >> reporter: that's right. it was a very brief tenure as an attorney for the former president in his attempts to stop the certification of the 2020 ele

>> reporter: early this morning brian laundrie's father chris left his home right here and we saw himup into the carlton reserve. that reserve where teams have been searching for weeks and where yesterday when we obtained a police report for an abandoned veeck we learned that the family's mustang was reported as an abandoned vehicle there on september 14th. now, according to the attorney for laundrie's parents they said that about three weeks ago they gave authorities information about where brian likes to go in that area but that they felt that being on site now for assistance would be better and so, accord willing to the laundrie's attorney. that's what chris laundry is doing there right noufrmt we saw his truck go in and we haven't seen sim come back out. that's where the focus has been for the search. we've been here for almost three weeks, and in the last for you days we've really seen things pick up over at the carlton reserve seeing additional resources being requested by teams out there and again now seeing brian laundrie's father joining that effort to try to answer that ques

. >> yeah, stuart, also today, brian laundrie's father, chris laundrie, was seen entering the carltonhe was assisting in the search for his son. kbhi do you think brian laundrie's parents are suddenly corporating now three weeks into the search? >> clear indication, they are formally cooperating with law enforcement. clearly, they said there was an assumption that the parents assisted or hindered with the investigation. i think there is a big difference between law enforcement being able to prove it in a court of law. once the evidence was established they could charge the mom or dad together, they put the full court press on the mom and dad through their lawyer and they realize they need to cooperate fully. you have mom and dad trying to assist them in the apprehension of their son. >> mark, i want you to weigh in on this. the new cooperation from the laundries mean they have struck a deal? what could it entail? what do you see here? >> it does not suggest they have given information. the information that they arrive back at home in the van when he spoke to them. where he want what h

one sign protesters left behind that said what if it was cassie that struck a report with chris laundrie saw him come out early to remove the sign referencing his daughter from the families lawn. continuing the search for laundrie near the reserve. the 23-year-old has been missing for more than one month now. he has wanted all bank fraud charges and still the only person of interest in the death investigation of girlfriend abby petito. on friday fox news with governor rhonda santos waited on the case. >> it is a sad case. a beautiful young girl with a lot of potential. and a lot of people loved her a lot. to see this happen really is heartbreaking. >> meantime, the petito family is expected to collect the cremated remains of gabby this weekend. the family visited the site in the national forest where the remains were found last month. they left behind a few mementos including a yellow sunflower in a white bag with just written inside. of course, the petito family will take the remains of gabby back to her hometown in new york where they will continue their grieving. eric: thank you. arth

. >> reporter: last week, the attorney for laundrie's parents released a statement saying, quote, chrisndrie do not know where brian is and were, quote, concerned about brian and hope the fbi can locate him. according to the police, brian laundrie's parents claim they last saw him on september 14th. they reported him missing three days later. when asked about her parents' involvement, cassie told abc -- >> i don't know if my parents are involved. i think if they are, then they should come clean. >> leyla, i know you actually just had a chance to speak to brian laundrie's sister. you know, just -- just moments ago on the phone. what did she tell you? >> well, erin, cassie laundrie is not willing to do any more on-camera interviews at this point. but we did briefly talk about the last time she spoke to her parents, roberta and chris laundrie. she says it was about two weeks ago, and that the conversation was very short because their attorney has made it clear to her that they cannot answer any of her questions. so despite the fact that she, herself, has a lot of questions, she said the la

none other than brian laundrie's father, chris. he's been refusing to speak publicly all this time, and now he's on the search team all of a sudden the manhunt is now in its third week after the fbi issued an arrest warrant for brian laundrie for debit card fraud. authorities have been scouring the carlton reserve near venice, florida, where his family said brian was last headed on monday, september the 13th the laundrie family attorney telling cnbc that today chris laundrie accompanied members of law enforcement into the reserve to show them the trails and places chris and brian have hiked and which brian was known to frequent. no discoveries, he says, but the effort was helpful to all. again, from the laundrie lawyer. he went on to say the water level is going down in that swampy 25,000-acre reserve and that certain areas are more accessible to search he says hopefully brian will be located soon >>> a federal judge is temporarily blocked the texas ban on nearly all abortions after six weeks, including cases of rape and incest the

laundrie. he was only a person of interest in this case chris and roberta laundrie.erve yesterday when it was opened up to the public for the first time they went with investigators, they all sort of split up chris laundrie, brian's father was alone. he found what's called the dry bag, which is just that it's something to keep things dry for hikers for campers. and the hope is that some of those things that remain would help them either. find out what that was cause. brian laundrie to either take his own life or have his life taken or just expire. but more importantly that they can find anything that would help them in the investigation to death of gabby petito. that's you in san francisco. you say they found a dry bag for keeping things dry. it's it's our understanding from some of the preliminary information of this area had been previously. >> under water. is that what you're hearing as well. and that's why they didn't find this evidence prior because they did search the area before. >> they did search area. that's exactly right. and what they what happens in flor

what if it was cassie, that sign in particular got the attention of chris laundrie who came out and removedhe message mentioning daughter from the lawn this morning. meantime the patito family is expected to return from wyoming this weekend with the remains of gabby. on thursday the family visited the site in national forest where the 20-year-old's remains were found last month. they left behind a few momentos including a yellow sun flower and white bag with messages written inside. we also learned that the patito family spoke to investigators in wyoming about the status of the investigation and how far investigators have gotten but so far they have not been able to talk about that public, eric. eric: just heartbreaking, charles, thank you. arthel. arthel: yeah, it is, all right, eric, circle back to the country's economic crisis as the recovery from the pandemic chugs along, the growing list of issues putting president biden's leadership to the test and new taking a political tow. in fact, the real clear politics average of polls shows the president's approval ratings dropping nearly 5 poi

the investigation of gabby's murder is still nowhere to be found this morning brian's father chris laundrie red pickup truck before returning to the northport home without saying a word a couple of hours later demonstration picked up and for the family with protesters from as far as pennsylvania and arizona demanding more from the parents and speak up. protesters from the neighbors and sick of the shouting of the brian laundrie home, onlookers is reaching a boiling .1 frustrated neighbor getting into a shouting match with several protesters on the street today one protester telling neighbors to help them if they want to get rid of them. >> i am sick of it, put your flip-flops on and your robe and walk over there and pass it on to the door. six weeks ago, but this family get peace this poor girl was way too good for your son. >> this protesters are not giving up, they say they want to keep the spotlight on the laundries and so far we have seen one protester has been out here for eight hours today. jon: charles watson from northport florida, thank you. multiple people are her after shooting a

i think the police know that he's not there but they wanted to observe chris laundrie, and watch histhful. and then gauge from there if they could actually get him to trust them with what he does know because there's one thing for sure. the laundrie family knows a lot more than they are telling the police. >> right. so you said you don't believe that laundrie has been at that reserve at all. you believe the family in some way has been helping laundrie buy time to make some other escape. where do you suppose -- which direction might he go? if not where the family says the reserve. do you think he's still in the country? >> i don't believe he's in the united states at this point. to be fair i don't know if the laundrie family is actually aiding and abetting or just buying a story he told them hook, line and sinker. let's assume that they are unknowingly helping brian at this point. but what is today? the 9th. we haven't seen him for almost four weeks. it's the camping trip that they took north that has me most interested. >> once he came back on september 1 in the van that belonged to

chris laundrie, brian's father, did go out to help investigators at the carlton reserve and his goalsically show them areas and hikes and trails his son liked to go to. he did that earlier this week and came right back home to the house behind me where they have been since their son went missing four weeks ago. now, north port police, local police here, was the original agency investigating the disappearance of gabby petito. her parents reported her missing on september 11th. the police department came to the house to interview the parents. they say it was a bit odd. when they arrived, the family had the lawyer on the phone and would not answer questions directly about gabby petito. then later on, her body was found in wyoming. listen to north port police officer spokesperson talk about the limitations they had while surveilling brian laundrie. >> i mean, the guy goes for a walk in the carlton reserve. not wanted for a crime. what are we supposed to do? go tree-to-free and follow him through the woods? you know, it just wasn't there with the information we had in this case. >> report

we did see chris laundrie brian's father out in the reserve yesterday searching with teams.icly seen him do that. they told us that he was out there pointing places brian was known to frequent given that the parents told police that's where he was headed and learned this evening there's no current plans for either of the parents to return to the reserve to search for brian laundrie. we were there today and it was pretty quiet. we didn't see any teams going in and out like we have for the last three weeks. what we did see here at the laundrie home is a plane over the home with a banner that said end the silence. justice for gabby so really today we have seen the frustrations, sensed the fr frustration not just from the community wanting answers and from investigators. pamela? >> thank you so much. >>> for more let's turn to senior law enforcement analyst chief ramsey. authorities con foim they don't have the phone that laundrie useded on the road trip. how crucial is that piece of evidence? >> crucial. no doubt the phones were d disabled. it's unfortunate they don't have it.

out of that search of the campsite. >> cnn is learning from the laundrie family attorney that chris laundrien's father, was asked, has been asked to assist law enforcement in the search for his son in that carlton reserve. but after remnants of recently found campsite -- a recently found campsite were found, i mean, they told -- i mean, what does that tell you? does this mean anything? is this -- are we, you know -- >> don, it's really hard to say without having some inside information. i can say this. the fbi's deafening silence in this case speaks volumes to me. i think they have credible leads that they are following up on and there are ones that we don't see in the public eye, the ones that have been corroborated. the fact that you didn't see the fbi out there with the evidence response team tells me this was delegated to the local law enforcement. it's something they had to do and process. and i understand that the father said this is an area where he may have been hiking or has hiked in the past -- >> but they rescinded that request though. i mean, i wonder if that -- why, you know, th

the tour did not last long and chris laundrie drove back home three hours after starting.e family attorney, no discoveries issue but the effort was helpful. seems water in the preserve is recedeing and certain areas are more accessible to search. hopefully brian will be located soon. the parents say brian laundrie went for the hike two days after gabby petito's parepts reporting her missing. laundrie has not been seen since. he had been with her on the summer road trip out west, with gabby petito, who was found dead in a wyoming national forest three weeks ago. as far as recent report the carlton reserve search area discovered recent camp site north port pd telling us today, that is not true, no camp site was found and the cell phones that both petito and laundrie had with them as they toured the national parks out west, the cell phones have never been found. sandra. >> sandra: usually such a great source for tracking someone down, that manhunt continues. phil keating reporting from north port, thank you. >> trace: outrage against the justice department getting intense aft

that struck a chord with chris laundrie. ut earlier this morning and he removed the science referencing his daughter -- removed the sign referencing his daughter from the lawn. brian laundrie has been missing for more than a month now and is wanted on bank card fraud charges and the only person of interest in the investigation of the death of his girlfriend gabby petito. ron desantis weighed in on this case. >> a beautiful young girl with a lot of potential. a lot of people really loved her a lot. to see this happen is really heart breaking. >> meantime, the petito family is expected to collect the cremated remains of gabby this weekend. on thursday the family visited the site in teton national forest where the 20-year-old's remains were found last month. they left behind a few mementoes including a yellow sunflower and a white bag with messages written inside. we do believe that the family is on their way back to blue point, new york. the daily mail was able to snap a few photos of the family leaving the mortuary in wyoming

stuart, also today brian laundrie's father, chris laundrie, was seen entering the carlton reserve. is the nature reserve there. he was assisting law enforcement in the search for his son. why do you think brian laundrie's parents are suddenly cooperating now, three weeks into this search? what does that mean? >> clear indication that they are now formally cooperating with law enforcement. clearly at the time, at the very early onset, there was an assumption by law enforcement and that the parents assisted or hindered with respect to the ongoing investigation. i think once the evidence was established that they could potentially charge the mom or dad or together with respect to hindering an investigation, they now put the full-court press on the mom and dad through their lawyer. i think they realized their exposure, and they finally realized they need to come onboard and cooperate fully. so now you have mom and dad fully cooperating and trying to assist them in the apprehension of their son. >> mark, i want you to weigh in on this. does the new cooperation from the laundries indicat