people with policy experience, and there are few people that are positioned to do that more than chris lehaneth local regulators and airbnb, then crypto, and now leading policy at openai, at a time when the industry and government are trying to get their arms around ai policy. he said the stakes in ai are higher than anything else that he's seen. the autocratic versus the democratic development of it >> china wants to be the dominant player in ai by 2030. vladamir putin, who i would typically never, ever quote, has said whoever wins ai wins the world. and so the stakes here are enormous and for the u.s., which is currently leading, but that lead is not guaranteed, but for the u.s., to continue to lead in ai, and therefore help ensure it's built with democratic values, democratic principles, drives democratic benefits. >> now, we still don't have specifics on either presidential candidates' policies, chris le hane and other executives in silicon valley are going to be continuing and playing whatever roles in the ai regulation that is shaped or not shaped. these are the names to watch, jay carn