my first two auditions and meetings with chris lloyd and steve levitan was me walking in a room and ae chat with me and would you mind terribly standing up? as they all sort of stared at my stomach trying it figure out is this vaguely doable? i was still getting larger. >> larry: you still got it with that? >> i had to go and audition, just, you know like everybody else except for ed o'neill. he did not audition. >> did you audition with the laundry in front of your stomach and the sweater? >> no. i did audition with -- i wore a lot of stripes to fool the eye and perhaps -- and perhaps a dramatic scarf. >> our director directed the pilot. he was also nominated for an emmy. he did a great job with that. something you said there, though, about the materials. i know i wanted this part so badly. all of us shared that in common. as actors, you audition all the time and think if it happens it happens, if it doesn't it doesn't. this one i knew if i didn't get i would be really, really upset for a long time. >> larry: did you want it badly, ty? >> yeah, badly. i was lucky enough to work with