. >> going back to chris mack son, this item has been on the report since i was appointed to the commission and it's pretty much the same, no change in residents status and skip tracing to locate. i mean, i don't have the answer to this question but my question is what is b.d.r. doing? it's been thro three plus yearse i have seen it on the list and the referral date was 2013. that's already six plus years ago. >> would you like me to bring back more information about the tools or try to locate it? >> i mean, yes. when are they going to deliver results on this? how much longer are they going to do this? if you are not getting the result you want, what do you need to do differently, right tox ge,to get the outcome and te not that effective. >> how much are we spending to try to find someone and is the ethics commission trying to find money to b.d.r. based on the number of cases or how many times they skip trace because they know there's a procedure through the municipal code if it's a lost cause, you can make a determination that this person has gone underground and it's not worth trying to f