he is chris matthews, long time roving d. c. bureau chief of the san francisco examiner speech writer for president jimmy carter, former host of the tv show, hardball and m s. b c, which was a political institution for more than 20 years. he retired last year and recently published his autobiography, this country, my life in politics and history. chris matthews is terrific to have you with us today. let me just ask you about the frame you have. what i read about you getting into politics coming out of the, you know, the catholic scene in, in pennsylvania and, you know, getting a patronage job, you know, all of the inner workings of those political forces at the time. you know, it kind of reminded me that it had kind of a tribal dimension. and so as i look at new tribes emerging in american politics the day, you know, i'm just interested in whether or not we're just at the front end of what it was like when boston catholics were, or philadelphia catholics came in. and how, you know, whether or not we're just reliving history a

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host: what did you learn about chris matthews in writing this? guest: life as a way of going around, what goes around, comes around. in my generation week rub under world war ii hiding under our desks because the russians were coming. i found myself at the end of the cold war in budapest and berlin watching the fall of the iron curtain. i was in africa in the peace corps on the border of south africa during the apartheid and i was there for the election where nelson mandela was elected president. a lot of the things you think that will not change, will. many times for the better, i am optimistic about this. look at gay-rights, marriage, that will never change, but it did. i think we made progress, not enough. changes the story. host: let's dig in. guest: -- host: let's dig in. the battle between right and left will not fade, we needed, we must battle for the maximum liberty of the individual americans after all of these years trying to get it right. where are we getting it right? guest: i like c-span because you get the left in the right, journal

host: we are talking with chris matthews. his first book was called "hardball," his latest, "this country: my life in politics and history." (202) 748-8000 for democrats, (202) 748-8001 for republicans, you can send us a text message or join us on social media. you talk about the president who you interviewed and moments in your life, including post 9/11. "before the month of september was out, i began worrying about where the american reaction would take us. i feared our actions could only lead to something worse, what a large u.s. response lead to more recruitment, i worried george w. bush was being encouraged to go further." explain. guest: i had a contact who was very close personally to general colin powell. dick cheney was vice president, was talking up war with iraq. other people, neocons, neoconservatives in the administration, were pushing for war. we are going to war with the country that had nothing to do with 9/11. why? what is going on here? the op-ed pages, the argument for going to war with iraq. you do not hea

so welcome chris matthews virtually. we won the pairs you too much by saying you told us this was the only state you have never been to. we are going to give you a half credit for it. >> thank you. >> congratulations on the book. i was trying to think when i first heard about the book how you wrote it and actually contained all of the things you have done without giving us a churchillian multivolume memoir. also just to be candid you are known for a shaggy dog story. i was thrilled that you could get all of this in. >> stuart roberts the editor of simon & schuster didn't change anything. those were my words verbatim but he did take me from 140,000 words which is a pretty good book to 93,000. he did things like he always does everything has to end with the opportunities you got and how one thing led to another can't be having digression. so nothing about girlfriends in grade school, nothing like that. nothing about 10 chapters down to two chapters and i think he was pushing me for one. i wanted to have at least two mod on

host: what did you learn about chris matthews in writing this? guest: life as a way of going around, what goes around, comes around. in my generation wk

chris matthews reminds us the democrats of all back when spines were standard equipments., city to city remind people of the steaks, what's infrastructure, money could buy. are you as frustrated as i am that we are losing track of what is at the heart of this? >> i think i'm more frustrated than you are. you and i have judge these truthers temperatures in the few days. i think democrats are still in a reality that no longer exist. i think chuck schumer and joe biden, to a degree, and some of the other senators, are still acting as if the republican party is somehow the republican party fate worked with 20 years ago, 15 years or even ten years ago. it is not, that is a reality that democrats need to fundamentally face and come to terms with. if they finally come to terms with that, and get over the denial that they've been in over what the republican party is today, which is not a party that is interested in consensus, it's not a party interested in the common good, it's not a party interested in a common set of facts, and it is fundamentally not a party interested in democ

chris matthews of "hard ball" and someone i've been following and watching for many years and certainlyin my younger days trying to figure out what i thought about things and someone who had a big impact on me thinking more critically about the country in which

chris matthews remind us the democrats of old back when spines were standard equipment would take this state to state, city to city, remind people of the stakes. what infrastructure money could buy. so are you as frustrated as i am that we're losing track of what is at the heart of this? >> i think i'm more frustrated than you are. i think you and i haven't judged each other's temperatures in a few days on this. i think the democrats are still in a reality that no longer exists. i think chuck schumer and joe biden to a degree and some of the other united states senators are still acting as if the republican party is somehow the republican party they worked with 20 years ago or 15 years ago or even ten yoers ago. it's not. that is a reality i think democrats have to fundamentally face and come to terms with because if they finally come to terms with that and get over the denial that they've been in about what the republican party is today, which is not a party that is interested in consensus, it's not a party interested in the common good, it's not a party interested in a common set of

chris's story added up. and that was when police learned matthew and chris were not the only men in lynsie's life. was someone else both matthew and chris had mentioned to investigators, an older man who drove lynsie around. no one knew his name. they had heard lynsie refer to him as her friend. >> all anybody knows him by. >> as her friend? >> yeah. >> nancy had no idea lynsie was friends with any older man. she was about to find out. . >> two days after lynsie vanishes. >> you get a phone call? >> yes. >> you're pretty much at your whit's end. >> yes. >> the phone rings and it's marty. >> yes. >> did you know a marty? >> no. >> did lynsie know a marty? >> no. >> marty went to pick lynsie up and she wasn't there. he had money for lynsie's that she needed for tuition. none of that made any sense to . >> after lynsie goes missing, nancy, the mother gets a phone call from a guy named marty. >> marty ross. >> what did marty say? >> marty says he's befriended lynsie. he's a friend of lynsie's and he's concerned because he hadn't heard from her. >> what did you learn about marty rosler? >> marty rosler

chris? >> so, matthew, look, you know texas politics well. the chances the democrats are going to make any headway here, and why is this so important to governor abbott? i think he's only called special sessions a couple times before. the last time in, i think, 2017. >> well, i think it's very difficult, as was just laid out, for the democrats to succeed in blocking this in texas, but i think their point, which is a very valid one, is to point out all of the problems and the problematic things that exist in this legislation and that continue to attack on the democracy. i think governor abbott had decided to be craven to the most basest part of the republican party, whether it's a long-term political prospect he has or it's just who he is or who he's become in the course of this. look at what they're -- besides the voting rights stuff that they're pushing back against, look at what else they're having a special session. they've got a critical race theory agenda item. they got more restrictions on women's right to choose. they have a tax on the

host: joining us now is chris matthews, and he is the author of "this country: my life in politics and

chris: governor, how seriously do you take matthew mcconaughey as a possible opponent. >> doesn't mattername is, i take everybody very seriously and it shows -- i'll tell you two things. that is, if you look at my polling numbs betters the they are very, very strong. in addition to that, i have $55 million in the bank already and i'm a very aggressive fundraiser so i will have the resources and the backing of a lot of people across the state s of texas to ensure that whoever decides to run against me, we will be able to win. chris: governor abbott, thank you. thanks for your time. i got to say, some of your fellow republican governors stick to friendly venue as life preservers. i appreciate you coming back and being willing to answer all our questions, sir. >> thank you, chris. chris: up next, we'll bring you in our sunday group to discuss the new biden push to go door-to-door to promote vaccinations. why has that set off some people? flowers are fighters. that's why the alzheimer's association walk to end alzheimer's is full of them. because flowers find a way to break through. just lik

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matthews or and brian sicknick. would that be the focal point of the committee? >> we will look at everything, chris, and thank you for having me, by the way. one of the things is looking at all the circumstances and the facts surrounding january 6th. everything is on the table. we will look at it. we've not been given anything beyond that. i think it is important to see who was complicit, and what went on on january 6th. whether they were outside forces, inside forces. we will look at all of them. we will look at the information that's already been collected by the various committees, but also, we will look at other information that we have not had access to. telephonic information, other things. what we have to do is have the best professional staff that's available, we will do our work we will not rush the task. we will interview in knee and anyone that the facts lead to. we want to talk to members of the capitol police, chris, we've talked to the brass of the capitol police. but we've not talk to the rank and file people who fought those insurrectionists that day. in my opinion, saved the lives

chris mears. that's all the sport for now. you can find more on all those stories on the bbc sport website. that's bbc.co.uk/sport. earlier we spoke to matthew and how he coped with training during lockdown. amazing, surreal. it really hasn't sunkin amazing, surreal. it really hasn't sunk in yet. it's been a whirlwind, really. just incredible. i'm so pleased for him on the team. last ear, pleased for him on the team. last year. when _ pleased for him on the team. last year, when lockdown happened, we managed _ year, when lockdown happened, we managed to find a glorified paddling pool managed to find a glorified paddling pool it's _ managed to find a glorified paddling pool. it's technically called an overground pool, five metres long, three _ overground pool, five metres long, three metres wide, just over a metre deep~ _ three metres wide, just over a metre deep~ we _ three metres wide, just over a metre deep. we attached a bungee cord to the garage _ deep. we attached a bungee cord to the garage wall in the garden, and put 15,000 litres of water into it and he _ put 15,000 litres of water into it and he was swimming hour after hour each day