maury taylor, titan international chairman and ceo, and chris mcfarland, master g ceo.entlemen, good to see you. mahre are you, let me go to you first. what do you make of these numbers overall? >> well you want to keep your doctor? you want, to you know, i don't believe them that is the first thing. david: you don't believe the numbers at all this personally, are you hiring, are you firing, keeping it flat or what? >> no. we, we've had a reduction, well, we're worldwide we went from about 8500 employees down to about 6,000. in the u.s. we went from 3500 down to about three thousand this past year. david: i'm getting a sense you don't believe the numbers? >> no because, if you want to hire, you don't have any problem finding anybody. and if you think of a 5% unemployment, and back in, when it, the numbers were really, real numbers, you had to scrape the barrel when you get down to five. you don't have to today. >> by real numbers, carlos, i think what he is referring to is the labor participation rate which is just awful these days but are you hiring now, if so why? >>