islands to the mainland the started doing this now but really have to do more on that part all right chris noth or the un refugee agency spokesperson in germany we appreciate it thank you very much. the world health organization has warned that african health systems are ill equipped to respond to the corona virus outbreak should cases start to spread on the continent in south africa president's cyril run a poser is promising to look after homeless people during the lockdown in cape town that means moving them into a camp bonte the ngo doctors without borders says that decision could well in fact more people. out of the increase went to see for himself. cape town mayor dennis played to actually wanted to showcase how well the city is dealing with the homeless during the coronavirus crisis it has set up shelter for some 1500 people at a sports field on the outskirts of the city the mayor and his staff proudly point out a memo by a medical clinic but the upbeat mood quickly changes when we approach the 10s with the homeless live behind a fence was that they are a good deal oh god oh my goodness r

chris. did nothing nor growth you know that this isn't changing until the country opens we're not going anywhere and all this money is not going to help anybody because at the end of the day we need a growing and a moving economy where the velocity of money goes through the economy right now the money goes into the hands of individuals and sits there ok plus the the few people who have taken advantage of the program don't deserve to be in the program so at the end of the day this is a benefit in my opinion a total bust and of course the fed in their usual stead has really created a lot more issues down the road than they've actually tried to cure we're at right now it's your point but i know it's a huge surprise as when there's free money handed out by some organization whether it's the government the fed whoever it might be there's going to be some people who take it who don't deserve it and we've seen that with the small business program i mean now what there were reports are that the los angeles lakers got several 1000000 in the stimulus so i mean if that's all ridiculous here kristie equitie

welcome took over nothing special here on the news i'm chris cuomo millan it is good to have you with us now when looking at the what the future might bring is good to remember what shakespeare once past is prologue meaning looking back can help one look ahead dutch historian bregman has made a career of looking at the great crises of the past millennium he's concluded that they've always lead to major interventions and eventually beneficial shifts for him the coronavirus calamity has shown the kind of solidarity that humanity is capable of heralding positive changes for greater society. so let's bring in the man himself historian rick bragman it's good to have you on the program and your new book humankind a hopeful history you say that empathy compassion and kindness make us human beings not how do people hoarding toilet paper buying clothes of noodles and spreading fake news during the current crisis fit into that argument. well that's a great question you know this is all theory within western culture and scientists call them the near theory it's the idea that civilization is only

someone who you don't watch it we watch rachel maddow and you know chris hayes and then we'll watch some movie or something but nothing has changed for us and we seem pretty safe here do you think chris hayes is glasses reason not resemble the glasses worn by farley granger's wife who he wants to divorce and strangers on a train. yes. there there is the shirt had certain i always look it does have glasses and i'd say i could 0 her off the locker choking her in the reflection on the love there connla. they're big they're substantial they're real they're important outlasts yeah well. let's talk about this book the book is very sort of call your mother folks i could not tell you when i saw the story on the front look so the picture on the front i should say look so extra i remember the look on my face for us 16 to 48 and frocked i would say and then what i saw the title like i had a lump of the story behind the result 40 please tell the story behind call it very spun felt call here we're now the title is based on a real incident in early january 19th 7 the i was 17 years old i was a senior in college and we went to the 1

we see nothing but fingerprinting. chris christie's advice is taking place in an alternate reality, because the person he's directing it is not following it. >> steve schmidt, heidi przybyla, thank you my friends. >>> after the break, new repo reporting undercutting one of trump's favorite methods of deflection. that story is next. and save in more ways than one. for small prices, you can build big dreams, spend less, get way more. shop everything home at wayfair.com stimulant laxatives forcefully stimulate i switched to miralax for my constipation. the nerves in your colon. miralax works with the water in your body to unblock your system naturally. and it doesn't cause bloating, cramping, gas, or sudden urgency. miralax. look for the pink cap. i have always wanted to be a teacher. i've been teaching for over 20 years. with everything going on, we've had to alter our classroom settings. we have to transition into virtual learning. on the network, we can have teachers face-to-face with a student in live-time. they can raise t

had tried to find lynsie up at the construction location where chris had worked and he had gotten some interest from cadaver dogs but nothingust down the street from chris' house, bryce angel of the placentia pd who had been assigned to work with larry was listening in and keeping an eye on the action. so you're watching him while this interview happens on the front doorstep? >> yeah. i was sitting, you know, ten houses down, watching the reporter -- or the undercover police officer. once she left the area we were in business. >> what happens? >> later that night, he was seen coming out of his house and going into the garage, we're talking like 3:00 in the morning. it was clearly a sign of somebody who couldn't sleep. >> detectives were sure that they had rattled their suspect. the next day, they trailed chris when he left his house. >> at some point, it became apparent that he knew we were following him. >> they broke off surveillance. and brought chris in. >> chris, have a seat. >> larry had read all about chris mcamis. and he had looked at tape of every time he had been in. he and chris were going to meet for the first t

i think it's a he said/she said/the press thoroughly investigated and found there's nothing there. >> senator chrisoons, democrat from delaware, stay safe, stay healthy, and good luck next week, as you all come back to this part of the country and do keep your social distancing. that's for sure. thank you, sir. >> thanks, chuck. >>> up ahead, president trump is forcing meat producers to keep their plants open. but can that be done safely? and what about workers in other essential industries? that's next. r essential industries that's next. dad, i'm scared. ♪ it's only human to care for those we love. and also help light their way. it's why last year chevron invested over $10 billion to bring affordable, reliable, ever cleaner energy to america. ♪ balanced nutrition for strength and energy. whoo-hoo! great tasting ensure with 9 grams of protein, 27 vitamins and minerals, and nutrients to support immune health. and nutrients to since 1926, nationwide we've been there in person, during trying times. today, being on your side means staying home... "nationwide office of customer advocacy." ...but we can

but just made me remember nothing coming for free. >> chris, you know, i have been worried about you,erned. i get so many emails about you as well, but i appreciate you talking about these things you got me on speed dial. the reason you were doing that, for viewers who don't know, in order for someone to feel like -- if they're at home and tested positive, there's three things the doctor looks for to see if you might be able to stop isolation. no fever for 72 hours without tylenol. the respiratory symptoms completely gone away. that has to take place seven days since the symptoms began, you have to be symptom free. you're not there yet. i know it's been over two weeks now. really thinking about you. >> i am so lucky and this has been made so easy for me. i'm here at home with christina. that's my biggest concern, you know, that she doesn't go to wrong way, the kids don't go the wrong way. i'm blessed with being able to do this so much easier than so many people. i heard from all these people today about how close they've come to 72 hours and then they finally made and it their cough c

chris: starting business -- they have reclaimed downtown. downtown was dying. it was nothing. an: what is the moral of the story? chris: there are a lot of morals there, but i think -- i understand, you know, there's a lot of -- there's a lot of -- immigrants in the united states face a lot of problems. but i think the lesson of lewiston is how well it works. you have this somali-american community that moved in in 1999 and dramatically changed the town and the town by and large is working ok. there are problems but it is working out. susan: in the brief 10 minutes we have left, i wanted to put a wrapper on this conversation about what you learned. let me start with statistics. first of all, we have talked about poverty. if people do not know it, the federal poverty level is $12,000 and change for single and $15,000 for families. just this month, the joint economic committee in congress released a report that says the mortality from death of despair far surpasses anything seen in america since the dawn of the 20th century. the recent increase has primarily been driven by an unp

that stung a little bit, but made me remember that nothing comes for free. >> chris, you know, i've beened about you, a little concerned. i get so many emails about you as well. i appreciate you talking about these symptoms. you've got me on speed dial. the reason you were doing that, in order for someone to feel like if they're at home and teed positive, there's three things the doctors look for to see if you might be able to stop isolation. no fever for 72 hours without tylenol, respiratory symptoms having improved or completely gone away. that has to take place at least 7 days since symptoms began. you're not there yet. i know it's been over two weeks, buddy. really thinking about you. >> i am so lucky and this has been made so easy for me. i'm here at home with christina. that's by biggest concern that she doesn't go the wrong way, the kids don't go the way wrong way. i heard from all these people today about how close they've come to 72 hours and finally made it but then the cough came back. people are struggling all over this country. i hear those struggles. thank you for reaching

nothing else. the congressional democrats stuck together then cardin and chris van hollen addressing in the proposing a proposal. which is almost exactly what they have passed today. in terms of holding up the works they were the ones that held up the works for a package that is more fair as we go forward and they like to say oh we held it up. we didn't hold it up. they held it up. and now we have a real victory for smaller businesses in the leader has said it didn't have a banking relationship. they don't need them under this legislation as in the past. the one thing that we really had insisted upon in the next package is how we support our heroes and under the framework of state and local government we have health care workers, transit workers, police fire ems all kinds of public employees who risk their lives to save lives and now they have lost their job. this is most unfortunate and they cannot stand to have a huge loss of revenue because of what's happening to the economy. they have a huge loss of revenue because of what is happening in their public hospitals in terms of other procedures and th

chris: starting business -- they have reclaimed downtown. downtown was dying. it was nothing. san: what is the moral of the story? chris: there are a lot of morals there, but i think -- i understand, you know, there's a lot of -- there's a lot of -- immigrants in the united states face a lot of problems. but i think the lesson of lewiston is how well it works. you have this somali-american community that moved in in 1999 and dramatically changed the town and the town by and large is working ok. there are problems but it is working out. susan: in the brief 10 minutes we have left, i wanted to put a first of all, we have talked about poverty. the federal poverty level is $12,000 and change for single and $15,000 for families. just this month, congress -- the joint economic committee in congress released a report that says the mortality from death of despair far surpasses anything seen in america since the dawn of the 20th century. the recent increase has primarily been driven by an unprecedented epidemic of drug overdoses, but even excluding those deaths, the combined mortality r

nothing else. they took a defeat on the floor because congressional democrats together, ben cardin and chris van hollen objecting, and then proposing our proposal. which is almost exactly what they pass today. so in terms of holding up the works, they were the ones who held up the work for a package that is more fair than the rest as we go forward. they like to say we held up -- they held up. and now we have prevailed. this is a real victory for smaller businesses. as the leader said, who did not have banking relationships. they don't need them under this legislation as it is past. the one thing that we really have to insist upon in the next package is how we support our heroes. state andframework of local government, we have health-care workers, transit workers, police, fire, ems, all kinds of public employees who risk their lives to save lives and now lose their jobs. this is most fortunate. -- most unfortunate and it cannot stand. they have huge loss of revenue because of what is happening to the economy. they have huge loss of revenue because of what's happening in their public hospitals and the re

nothing back. but we did hear that shake shack ruth chris, et cetera, et cetera and the crew ships -- that's ludicrous businesses like mine all over our country. i don't find myself being brave. i find myself being reasonable. i find myself having common sense. my doors are open. observing every single rule and regulation that's come down and go ahead, sir. >> sean: i was just wondering what happened when the police came? the police asked you are you open? you said indeed, i am. then what didwo they say? did they give you a ticket? >> no, sir.th they did not. and they looked at me and said you're a veteran. i said yes, i am. and they said thank you for your service. people want to walk in, they're allowed to walk in. i am not forcing them in. i am not a hairdresser or i'm close. i'm not a manicurist or a barber. i'm a retail store but i'm open to the public and if they want to walk anna, i'm not going to stop them from walking in. we have maintained our distance and we have obeyed every single rule, but i feel that this country is being dictated to unnecessarily. i think personally, i'm putting no one

chris: the president announced a plan this week to reopen the country and you immediately criticized it. i want to put up what you said. the white house is vague and inconsistent document does nothing to make up for the president's failure to listen to the scientists and produce and distribute national rapid testing. but dr. anthony fauci endorsed the plan, take a look. >> if these things are done correctly, i believe they can, we will have and there will be enough tests to allow us to take this country safely to phase 1. chris: don't you believe dr. fauci? >> yeah, he said if this were to go done properly. well, it hasn't been done. on march first, we passed the first bill bipartisan, testing, testing. it's over 6 weeks since then and it hasn't been done, so he's saying if it is done properly. we are all waiting very late on that. he's right, it has to be testing, tracing, contact tracing, it has to be treatment and has to be quarantine. it's part of something bigger as well to be done properly, but we are way late on it and that is the failure. the president gets on f, failure on the testing, but dr. fauci is right, if it is done properly. it hasn't been and that i think he puts

in the afternoon chris does telefunken is goes back to the world of the homeless there life is particularly hard in greece the state does practically nothingthem for now farai it is not enough to give the homeless food and a bad job a lot of it did not help if i could look up your ass back to make him feel like a full member of society from another group only christos elephant is the king of the homeless in athens has big plans in the future he wants to get even more people are the streets. well these days almost everybody agrees that global warming poses an ever growing threat to the future of our planet part of the solution is to reduce our dependency on forssell fuels and one of the places that's leading the way here is the danish island of zamzam it's become a poster child for a climate friendly way of life with the island and its inhabitants producing more energy than they actually need the big question is how. it takes a deep love for nature and peace and quiet to live on denmark's exams oh i learned the ice age left gently rolling countryside here. but tina and her husband ben had other reasons to leave the city life copenhagen and

as it was chris smalls and chris mauls remember this this guy organized a walkout saying that amazon was not protecting workers amazon fired him and then said oh it had nothing to do with that that walkout that he organized even though they fired him the same day they say it was because he was violating the social distancing rules and read to you the statement that amazon has made about this they said quote we had some instances of employees intentionally violating our clear guidelines on social distancing at our sites which in danger is what the individual and their colleagues we are taking intends measures to ensure the health and safety of employees across our sites who are performing in the central role role for their communities during this crisis what this looks like to me is that amazon messed up by firing this guy the same day who organized that walkout they said they did it for that reason and now they're trying to play a game that we would refer to as see why a in order to say no no it's not just him we do this with many people so now they're trying to make up for some of their mistakes that they made last week even not reporting when i remember we

nothing. however, a number of those restaurants are now returning the funds after intense public backlash, ruth's chrissweetgreen and kura sushi said they would return the loans. will this coupled with the billions in federal aid make it to the small businesses that need it most? with me now is michael chodos, the former deputy counsel for the small business administration under president obama. thank you for joining us. under the new guidelines, there are going to be requirement that's the businesses have to show can't tap other sources of money of funding. is that going to stop some of the problems? >> thank you very much for the opportunity to talk you to. i think the answer to that is, yes. essentially what happened is that when the first -- when the program first came out, there was very little guidance. about whether or not larger companies could apply so long as they had less than 500 employees per location. what ended up happening is that some very, very large companies ended up applying and getting the loans. they issued guidance saying to them if, you have access to other forms of capital out

. >> chris, thank you so much for the clearest explanation that i have heard on television or the media since this epidemic began. we have heard nothing but nonsense for weeks and weeks from the white house, and we have 60,000 deaths. and the fact of the matter is many countries have suppressed the epidemic. china did after its initial outbreak. taiwan. vietnam, hong kong, japan. you have new zealand, australia, so it's not purely a hypothetical, and it has nothing to do with the culture wars as you pointed out. it has to do with one simple idea, exactly what you said, which is that each infected person must be stopped from infecting more than one other person. that means several things. it means early detection of every case. it means early quarantining or early isolation. you ask, can you be safely at home or will you spread it to family members. if it's too crowded at home, you have to go to a public quarantine, which could be a hotel room, for example. it means that in public, people wear face masks and respect the physical distancing. it means that any place that does open up is monitoring temperature, screening for symptoms. it

nothing you can do about it. i will talk to you whenever you want. you are the best of us. and i can't tell you. >> i love you, chris. feel better. >> i can't tell you how good people have been. even the ones who hate me are being so nice. and that is a beautiful thing. and that shows our capacity to be much more powerful than any virus. sanjay, i'll talk to you soon. thank you for helping me out, brother. >> stay close. you got it. >> all right. the man overseas, one of america's newest coronavirus hot spots says he is only getting a fraction of what he is asking for. we have to stay on this. because this is one of the flurry things. it can't be blurry. we have to shine a light on it. be blunt about it, be aggressive about it. illinois's governor says a big shipment did arrive but it had the wrong masks. is that true or not? what does it mean for his going forward? how does it get fixed? the governor, state talk. nex next. >>> . straight from the world's best plant scientists, comes miracle-gro performance organics. organic plant food and soil that finally work... for twice the bounty. guaranteed. miracle-gro perfo

she's heard nothing about her ppp application even as large chain restaurants receive millions access to that capital.not. >>was alrey hard at what about when you re that shake shack and ruth's chris got i was speechless. >>shake shack returned their ppmoy and president trump says he will ask other larger recipients to do so as well. treasury secretary steve mnuchin defended the overall distribution of thfunds we have over a million companies that have received this with less than 10 workers. the ppp out of cash now ison the cusp of new multibillion-dollar funding deal. reserve 60 billion for banks gear to lending to minority businesses we bring the track you like mobile boutique summer solstice and you heard anything. >>we haven't got the e-mail bag a card nothing owner of the cma pena set up in this lots of beautiful dresses she's not able to open during >>she hopes round 2 of the ppp will mean more businesses in her commity, we'll get the funding help they desperately ne. we ha been suffering the most. we've been hit the hardest. >>well that was kyung lah reporting this morning president trumsays he will ask an existing white house counsel. support how to best support minority

i will put this to chris, an important one today, i've tried every site and my employer about testing and have tried a government website to book a test and so far nothing who, if you've got symptoms, then you are now eligible for a test. you have slightly taking the wind out of my sails because i was going to say there is now a government website that you should be logging on to which will enable you to book that test. as i understand it, that website is due to be functioning today to stop yesterday, there was the opportunity for employers to book tests, today there is the ability for individual key workers to book them. if you go onto the uk government website, you should be able to book the test. so she should have a look again, if it wasn't there when she looked, she should hopefully be able to get on that site now. this is quite a straightforward a nswer to site now. this is quite a straightforward answer to this question i think from geoff, does key workers include supermarket collea g u es key workers include supermarket colleagues for the free testing that sta rts colleagues for the free testing that starts today? yes, it does. there is a defini

chris himself said he wouldn't be interview toking his brother because, you know, they're brothers, and that's not really a journalistic thing that you are seek out. but these are different times. these are weird times. nothinglies anymore because nothing normal exists right now. and i get -- howard: right. >> -- the point of wearing the hat for his show on the press briefing. that might have been a little bit much, to wear his cnn hat. howard: all right. >> people liked it, i lighteninged watching it, and i'm -- liked watching it, and i'm happy that they're doing it. howard: also cnn anchor brooke baldwin announcing she has the virus, so it's not just cuomo, it's not just journalists, of course. kat timpf, thanks very much, and we'll be right back. ♪ muck if♪ ♪ howard: what's it like for a journalist to struggle with the coronavirus, especially when it spreads to her family? joining us now from florida is cathy areu, she is, of course, an occasional guest on fox news and host of the liberal podcast -- you're now over. you've recovered from the virus, but obvious question, what was it like, what did you go through? >> yes. oh, my gosh. so i get migraines, and i -- i was getting very, very weird headaches, an

nothing. doesn't matter how good a singer you are. >> yeah, the nfl teams are worried than too in the draft coming up in a couple days as well, larry. >> thursday. thank you, chris>> i like to see if she has any little siblings she can have in front of her to cheer on her performance. >>> not even sports superstars are above staying at home. according to a mayor of tampa, florida. an employee had to tell tom brady to go home after spotting him working out in a city park. all parks are closed right now in tampa. the mayor broke the muse to the mayor of st. petersburg during a virtual news conference. >> they patrol around just to make sure that there aren't people in contact sports and things. and saw an individual working out in one of our downtown parks. and she went over to tell him that it was closed and it was tom brady. >> oh my goodness. >> well, there you go. >> wow. >> that expression. brady was not given a citation. the san mateo native just moved to florida after signing a free agent contract with the buccaneers, ending his long career with a new england patriots. >>> kristen, have you seen brady's house that he is renting from derek jeter? his house i

nothing actually happens. his main interest of course is in deflecting blame. looking tough but deflecting blame. >> but isn't it indeed also -- this is the dick cheney -- i'll make sure i pronounce it the christhews way, this is the executive that even after 9/11 that president bush didn't strive for. but this is the thing that bill barr, that dick cheney this is what they believe in. no? >> well, no advocate of unitary executive -- the unitary executive theory argue within the executive branch there are one executive. no one ever thought that the president sub seems all the 50 other sovereignties of the states and of the territories. so this is from a theoretical point of view it's an attack on traditional conservative ideas, authority of the states is concurrent with the federal authorities and it's blow hardism. if the governors are accountable to the president, and the failings that are happening at the state level are the president's fault. it can't be both be true but everything bad that happens is the governor's fault and if you feel so strongly, you have so much control over the governors why aren't you testing at the states. >> jonathan swan, can i ask you in your reporting, do you

chris hayes. they knew, they knew and they were warned. they knew and they knew and they knew and they were warned and they were warned and they were warned and they did next to nothing. there is a mountain growing by the day of investigative reporting how much the trump administration knew about the threat posed by the coronavirus, the extent to which this devastation we were living through at this moment was predicted and i don't mean an exercise from last year, though, there are those or warnings during the transition from the obama administration, there are those but this specific pandemic early on. "new york times" is the most shocking breathtaking blow by blow of the president's failure to do anything at all. quoting, throughout january mr. trump repeatedly played down the seriousness of the virus and focused on other issues, an ocho ray of figures from top white house advisors to ex ert maperte intelligence agencies identified the threat, sound aid laed alar made clear the need for action. the article described an email chain between public health experts inside and outside the government sounding the alarm in january calling themselves red dawn, an inside jok

chris hayes. they knew, they knew and they were warned. they knew and they knew and they knew and they were warned and they were warned and they were warned and they did next to nothing. there is a mountain growing by the day of investigative reporting how much the trump administration knew about the threat posed by the coronavirus, the extent

nothing about her ppp application, even as large chain restaurants received millions. >> access to that capital during normal times was already hard enough. >> reporter: what about when you read that shake shack and ruth's chris got all the money? >> ooh, i was speechless. >> reporter: shake shack returned their ppp money and president trump said he'll ask larger recipients to do so as well. treasury secretary steve mnuchin defended the overall distribution of the funds. >> we have over a million companies that have received this with less than ten workers. >> reporter: the ppp out of cash now is on the cusp of a new multi-billion dollar funding deal. it reserves $60 billion for banks geared to learneding to minority businesses. >> so we bring the truck to you. >> reporter: like mobile boutique, summer so stis. have you heard anything? >> we haven't gotten an email back, nothing. >> reporter: she set up in this parking lot for us. she's not able to open during the coronavirus shutdown. she hopes round two of the ppp will mean more businesses in her community will get the funding help they desperately need. >> we have been suffering the most. we've been hit the hardest. >> when you look at that report, this is

is trust leaders, nothing is more important than ensuring the right amount of kit is provided, and they will move heaven and earth to ensure that happens for every member of staff. chrisis lovely to see her up and about again. what symptoms did she have? you must have feared the worst with her being over 100 years old. she started with a cough last sunday. we took her into hospital last sunday morning. she was assessed. like you say, you fear the worst obviously because of her age. we had conversations with the co nsulta nt we had conversations with the consultant and by tuesday her blood pressure was low and they were saying it depended how she fared during the week. by thursday, she was ringing saying she would be home by friday which was great news. and members of the family managed to glimpse herfrom and members of the family managed to glimpse her from a and members of the family managed to glimpse herfrom a far and members of the family managed to glimpse her from a far distance. my glimpse her from a far distance. my aunt hilda lives not far from the ca re my aunt hilda lives not far from the care home, my mum phoned her. she nipped up. nobody had seen herfor f