it's competing with companies like youtube and his name is chris pavlovski he's the founder and ceo ofbout you. when did you decide to start rumble and how did you start rumble? >> i've been on the internet space for two decades. i started building out of my parents parent's basement right out of university and ironically i was in the video space back then competing with hundreds of web sites and specifically around 2005 youtube and we were competing against youtube. by 2007, 2006 there was a cataclysmic event that happened in the space where google acquired youtube and basically from that point on all of the sites like college humor were the ones that i had became pretty much nonexistent because in my opinion the vertical integration of youtube. 2013 is one i started rumble and we started it on the premise of the fact that the little guy, the little critter was no longer getting distribution and getting monetization on their video platform. they were now being silenced in a way. if you remember youtube in 2006, 2007, 2008 the homepage was full of home generated content things that you

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how and why the divisiveness has become so bitter, conway travis and chris pavlovski, good to see youe start with you. when i was reading it and realized the president still had access to his youtube account i was surprised, not surprised tonight, what do you make of the news? >> it is an awful decision and follows the president of different tech companies in conspiracy, in cahoots coming collusion making a decision at the same time which is why as much as there is a first amendment issue at play in the marketplace of ideas, the larger context, these are not government entities but there is major antitrust concerns and with your liberal or conservative or an independent this should terrify anyone who believes in the free flow of thought and information and ability to have robust debate about issues that matter in this country. it is not healthy, not good and something i believe courts need to examine as it pertains to big tech power to call. and shutdown somebody like the president. if they can do to him they can do to anybody. shannon: i know rumble is involved in a lawsuit against g

divisiveness in the country has become so bitter, let's bring in clay travis and rumble founder and ceo chris pavlovski with us. >> thank you. >> shannon: clay, when i was reading and realized the president still had access to youtube, i was surprised. not surprised tonight. what do you make of the news? >> it's an awful decision and i think it follows the president of the different tech companies in conspiracy, in cahoots inclusion making a decision altogether at the exact same time which is why as much as there is a first amendment issue at play here in the marketplace of ideas, larger context. obviously these are not government entities but i think there is major antitrust concerns that i think whether you are a liberal or conservative, independent, it should terrify anyone who believes in the free flow of thought and information and the ability to have a robust debate about issues that matter in this country. it's not healthy. not good. something i believe the courts need to examine as it pertains to big tex power to collude and shutdown somebody like the president. if they can do it to him, they c