. >> and i think chris sigalert and is also working in this area and keeping track. there is an effort by the aclu to at least get them to file it in court. thank you. 202-585-3886 now. >> for many years there's been a controversy for people being very concerned about the possibility that we are going to have a national i.d., something much broader than your driver's license. for all those years people seem to forget the fact that we all have a social security numbers which are being asked for every day in many different forms. for example, health insurance companies have their own private system that is totally dedicated to tracking you and your medical history through your social security number. though we have focused in great part on the high-technology issue of the last x amount of years nobody i've heard has addressed any of the more low-tech things, especially your social security number and how that is being abused and what we can do to make sure that is something that does not impact us personally. >> has the stuff always been going on through that channel?