host: chris strohm, the secretary mentioned steps she had taken. he mentioned a program that started during the bush administration -- you mentioned a program that started during the bush administration. what were the reasons for the secure border initiative? guest: delays and cost overruns. the government spent $1.2 billion on this program. it was sold as being the program that would cover the entire southwest border and also the northern border. most attention focuses on the southwest border. technology and infrastructure. there were consistently problems with rolling out the technology and how it was being used. eventually, through congressional criticism, for independent reviews of the technology, and by the department itself, there was a decision made not to continue this program. now the government is evaluating how we should approach using technology along the border in terms of going into individual areas and making decisions on what is needed in those individual areas. we are in a period of seeing what comes next with regard to this. there