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joining me is now hampshire governor chris sununu from new hampshire, good morning to you. >> morningll these people? >> yeah, they are mostly not canadians, i tell you that, everything from honduras, mexico, guatemala, over the past year, increased border crossing in new york and vermont and making their way to new hampshire and customs and ice agents are doing a great job, they have just been pulled back on resources from the federal government. for a decade, new hampshire had local law enforcement to partner with them to assist in illegal border crossings, that personnel has been pulled back. we've asked for more funding and it has been pulled back. we are taking our own steps to protect the border. >> steve: it is interesting, you are saying people come through the southern border, but now they are flying to canada and coming to the united states on northern border. they are coming on private land and that is a problem. >> that is right. we are not waiting for them walking down the road, they come through the woods and forest, they are smart and look at where patterns are and wher

here with me now is republican governor chris sununu of new hampshire. so much for joining me. i want to talk politics in a second, but first i want to ask about what happened in memphis and the tyre nichols, the video that we have seen, and most importantly, the brutal beating, deadly beating. >> i mean, first, when i saw it, i see it as a dad, right and what that father must have been going through watching that. it's so gut wrenching. but obviously, i have to transition and think, i'm the governor of the state. i oversee police standards and training, i oversee training in law enforcement. you want to make sure there's a sense of accountability. what you saw there was beyond a training failure, it was humanity. i think everyone acknowledges that. you have to make sure you're being transparent. you want to make sure that all of our law enforcement officers are seeing that video, understanding what happened, where those failures really were. and they clearly go beyond the video, unfortunately. what is inherent within our system? i think everyone across

chris sununu says thinking about it. >> i don't have a timeline. obviously folks are talking about it but i don't have a timeline. i'm trying to grow the party as republicans. the government is not the solution to cultural issues and we have a cultural problem. but the government isn't going to come down with a big heavy hammer and solve that problem. >> that's a sitting governor, often a strength for presidential candidates of both parties. asa hutch inson said there's a consensus there will be an alternative to donald trump and i should guarantee that i'll be in those conversations. to guarantee that you should say i, asa hutchinson, declare my candidacy. >> which he doesn't want to do yet. he said he hasn't made a decision yet. he said he thinks he has to do that in the first half of the year. i spoke to chris sununu also and he said he's considering it but currently he's traveling. the reason that he did the interview is pabecause i asked. >> but there is a dynamic here and that is that as long as the other candidates are presumed that they wil

"outfront" now, republican governor of new hampshire chris sununu. let's start with speaker mccarthy says santos should not resign, that voters have made their decision. voters made their decision based on information which was false. so maybe -- hard to imagine -- >> i think he should stay right in there. i can't wait to see what we'll find out next week. it's a joke. of course he's got to resign. when you've lost public trust, you've lost the ability to do the job. they can't kick him out, but he's got to do the right thing and resign. but clearly this is not an individual who has any sense of doing the right thing. so it's a joke at this point. >> it seems that way. and mccarthy is saying this is about the constitution and innocent until proven guilty. again, santos has admitted to the loo is. 15 rounds of voting to become speaker. he made a lot of concessions to win over these republicans that voted for him to get those final votes. santos stood by him, by the way, for all 15 rounds. are you worried about how much mccarthy gave up? are you worrie

. >> real quickly before we let you go new hampshire governor chris sununu said he's considering maybeunning in 2024 but acknowledged the uphill battle when you look at who else is on the playing field. definitely donald trump, likely ron desantis. is there room for another republican to throw their hat in the ring? >> absolutely. and i think chris sununu has a record of governing, obviously first in the nation primary in new hampshire on the republican side. you're going to need people who represent -- nikki haley is obviously looking at running, vice president pence. the important thing for republicans not to be cowed by the spectre of donald trump running again and have the courage in their convictions and then the process will play out. people will drop out before the primary votes are cast fending on how they're doing, but governors are traditionally a great place to look for future presidents and the senate right needs a representative here. too many people have been tiptoeing around donald trump while trying to convince themselves that he doesn't have a shot at winning that nomi

meanwhile, new hampshire governor chris sununu said he may seek the gop presidential nomination in 2024. other possible contenders include florida governor ron desantis. here's abc's maryalice parks. >> reporter: the 2024 republican primary this weekend kicking off in earnest. 75 days after he first announced he was running again, former president trump finally out campaigning in new hampshire and south carolina. >> i'm more angry now. and i'm more committed now than i ever was. >> reporter: these first events smaller, a far cry from his signature rallies. but trump already taking aim at would-be primary opponents like florida governor ron desantis. >> ron would have not been governor if it wasn't for me. and then when i hear he might run, i consider that very disloyal. >> reporter: while trump remains popular among republican voters, there are signs the party may be looking to move on. >> he's not bringing the fire or energy that a lot of folks saw in '16. he's going to be a candidate but he also has to earn it. >> many blaming trump and his unfounded claims of election fraud for repub

why is there just one republican governor who objected to this, one, ron desantis, where is chris sununuhampshire bouncing on cable pointing to himself as a potential presidential candidate and republican governor in tennessee, i'm not picking on them, and south dakota. and in texas and elsewhere? should account the republican governors be joining together to fight this stuff? where are the republican legislators? don't they take this seriously? they fund these exow courses and classrooms and school districts. we have 4500 schools in this country, also, that are using 1619 project as a historical tool. teaching this, written by nicole hannah jones. she is one of them, she is a radical. in my view, a bigot. my view. and another professor, who is quite brilliant okay clear politics, tells us a little bit about hannah jones, she promotes what she views is a racists version of u.s. history, which ispy being t taught to a lotza lot of your children. -- in a letter she alleged, white race is biggest murderer, rapist. >> saying: >> we find in the contribution is more modern in tone. but otherwi

thank you. >>> still to come, new hampshire governor chris sununu -- >> in the house.hrow his hat in the ring right here to talk about everything from taxes to tiktok and why he thinks the state could be a blueprint for economic success probably not we'll ask him. don't miss our interview also with mario gabelli on where he's looking for opportunity both at home and overseas. stay tuned you're watching "squawk box. this is cnbc >>> an update right now on the computer outage at the faa folks, this is disrupting flights nationwide if you are flying today, you need to check in with your airline. just moments ago, the faa said that it has ordered all airlines to pause domestic departures until 9:00 a.m. eastern time that's to allow the agency to evaluate the integrity of flight and safety information this is hours after a notice to air mission system went down this is an important system to the airlines they've described it as a computer being rebooted and they have to see how quickly they can reset all of that. there are 21,464 flights scheduled to depart airports in the

join like ron desantis, mike pence, nikki haley, and others including new hampshire's governor chris sununu who recently said mr. trump is, quote, not the influence he thinks he is. now all of this is happening as president biden is still finalizing his 2024 decision expected to announce plans as early as next month after the state of the union with several stops outside washington this week selling his agenda, seen as a testing ground for a potential re-election bid. willie? >> monica alba at the white house, monica, thanks so much. chuck todd is nbc's political director and moderator of "meet the press." chuck, good morning. on that note, you have a new nbc news poll you're going to roll out on "meet the press" this morning about the relative strength or perhaps weakness of both president biden and former president trump as they head into a potential rematch. what does it look like? >> it's not a good picture for either gentleman. biden is in slightly better shape than trump. what's been amazing about president biden, his numbers are starting to mirror what president trump's numbers looke

he mentioned chris sununu of new hampshire.e too will join me on fox business, which if you don't get, you should demand. we have two hot new shows. monday or that later. he'll be a special guest of mine. one of the stars of that network and this network, jeff flock. no one does these moving standups better. but right now when it comes to airline delays, moving around walking is about the best bet that you have. been waiting for a plane and waiting and waiting. apparently jeff flock, it's going to happen again or it could, right? >> more delays perhaps, more cancellations, neil. yeah, maybe you should walk to your destination. there's a new problem out at the nation's airports right now. what is it? would be best if you stayed tuned. after this commercial you'll find out. maybe try switching your car insurance to progressive. you could save hundreds. i don't know, dad. ♪ maybe try switching your car insurance to progressive. you could save hundreds. that's a great idea, tv dad. but i said the exact same thing. some day when you

others like nikki haley, florida governor ron desantis, and chris sununu are dropping hints they're goingununu cast some mild shade on the former president. take a listen. >> he comes to new hampshire and frankly gives a mundane speech. he read his tell prompter, stuck to the sticking points, went away. he's not bringing that fire and energy a lot of folks saw in '16. in many ways it was disappointing to some folks. he came to a predetermined crowd, not one of his big rallies. i think a lot of folks understand that he's going to be a candidate, but he's also going to have to earn it. and that's new hampshire. >> does trump have a tougher road ahead than he might think right now? >> i think he certainly does, especially if the memory of the midterms this past november is fresh in republicans' minds. as we all know, democrats did much better than expected, particularly in the senate, when they kept control of that chamber. and a lot of that, according to republicans, were the candidates former president trump put his political weight behind and became a loser for the party. of course he is

rachel: new hampshire governor chris sununu is sounding the alarm.isten. >> we've seen a lot of northern border agents shifted down to the southern border because the administration will not put in additional resources needed to take care after crisis there. we talk about a southern border crisis. god bless governor ducey, governor abbott they're on the front lines doing everything they can. it affects all 50 states. place like new hampshire, we have northern border. when agents get diverted we see a big increase in smuggling, traffic on the northern border, whether drugs, illegal activity coming over there. our states have to put more resources up there. will: i remember that was last summer on "fox & friends weekend" t was really foresight he sold us this was happening. he told us the type of people coming over the northern border do not want to be caught. they are often involved in illegal activity beyond simply illegal immigration. rachel: i don't expect to see kamala harris going to that border either. if she is not willing to go to the southern

chris sununu is here. you have a good model for this. >> it is a great model.ew hampshire was number two for overdose deaths in the country. as the drug crisis has evolved your system needs to evolve. we broke it down and provided more rural access to care, wrap around services and the country has gone up 60% in overdose deaths we're average, 25th. one is too many but our system is getting results. the key is rural access to care. recovery-friendly workplaces. wrap around model is more efficient at the local level. wrap around means treatment, recovery, work services, transitional housing, all in your community. you ask somebody to go from a rural area to drive 200 miles to the city they won't do it. they will tough it out. make the services accessible so they don't lose their kids and jobs and have the level of self-worth and they want to embrace the opportunity. also i think new hampshire has been on the cutting edge of understanding isn't just overpresent screening. a whole issue going on. fentanyl is in xanax, cocaine and meth. there is no safe experience.

. >>> the governor of new hampshire by the way talking about potential can states chris sununu apparentlyeighing in on the 2024 election. come on in lauren. who does he say or the gop will nominate. >> giving to ron desantis. here you go. >> obviously desantis and trump are the two candidates. >> he has not declared. >> not publicly declared he has hundreds of millions of dollars. obviously ron desantis is looking to run for president which is fine. he would probably win new hampshire now without a doubt. lauren: ironically sununu's name also comes up as a contender, ashley. he warns again the crowded field like we saw in 2016. he sees new hampshire as the first primary state responsibility to referee candidates. ones that are not viable, they can't win, they drop out. in the end you have two to four names, that is what he said, could all potentially win. is he one of those names? i don't know but he thinks ron desantis is getting it. ashley: sounds good in theory. we'll see. thank you, lauren. by the way what are republicans looking to focus on in 2024? lauren: education. keeping webbing

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i had a conversation with governor chris sununu of new hampshire towards the end of the year.re is that kind of discussion going on among republicans. >> one of the ways he could still win the nomination is one of the ways he won in 2016, which is there is a huge field of candidates, and they segment or fragment the voters, and then he takes the nomination. >> with 35%. >> he could even do less than 35%. is there any conversation that is going on, should go on to say, in order to stop donald trump, we need to not all jump in. we need to pick somebody, the best candidate and run that way? >> no, not -- i think a lot of us are looking at governors that may run. i think as governors, we all want to see a governor run and be successful. >> should it? should that happen? >> no, because it's up to the voters. >> but he also said that it is incumbent upon people who do end up getting in -- he would not say he was one of them -- but to say, if we're not catching fire, we're out. we're not just going to stay in. >> that's a fair point. in the 2016 primary we saw people lingering 2%, 3%

neil: i had chris sununu on my show, the new hampshire governor, might be entertaining a run for presidentcertainly sounds like that he made a point this wouldn't happen to me. i wouldn't be just carelessly handling documents or wouldn't write a book need the documents or somehow taken them out and use them for those purposes. it is already become a campaign issue for candidates who are trying to make it such. what do you think? >> well, you know, i mean that is easy to say when you're not the president or the vice president of the united states and when you're going back, all of the information, i mean i just marveled at the amount of physical information, not just classified, but written that came across my desk every day when i was in the white house. it was mind-boggling. to go back when you want to write a book, something along those lines, you do need access to the notes, things you previously saw to make sure you're remembering things correctly. i don't, i don't, i don't question anyone that would need to go back in the course of writing their book or something along those lines to

minds but there are some republicans, maybe not in the house, but you have new hampshire governor chris sununu saying that he believes kevin mccarthy should call for yarnell santos's resignation and say i can't wait to see what his resume says next week. he is a joke. do you think this will resonate with other republicans that will follow suit. >> you have been hearing republicans including in the house of representatives get louder about how they believe that what santos did was wrong even if they say that it is up to him to resign. but i do that i that what governor sununu said was notable because it puts more pressure on the house speaker, kevin mccarthy, to step in here. and sununu set he doesn't know what mccarthy could do other than call on him to resign and don't know what he would gain politically but he thought that mccarthy should do that. >> it is interesting, sunland -- because santos got committee assignments and the leadership is saying but they were bad committee assignments. it is one of the really most unusual arguments i've heard coming out of washington. what are you hearing

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this is not the first time that chris sununu said trump can't win.aid he's not stopping anyone from joining the race. chris christie said he doesn't believe trump can win. if we can talk about something that is going to happen, several polls have shown a drop in president biden's principle of law rating ahead of next week's statest of the union address. at principle of law rating is 46% among registered voters. there is a new marquette university law school poll that shows biden down by 44%. at principle of law there. what does that data tell you? >> it tells me that joe biden is challenged. but it doesn't say that he's going to lose. i know what the white house says. i know what the president says. but i also know the age component and i know that this is not just an election about 2024. this is serving an office through 2029, january 20th through january 29. he is not strong but he is not weak. he does have support from the base but he lost some support among swing voters. and probably most importantly the country is a little bit -- just a little b

. >> audie, in new hampshire, the republican governor chris sununu told cnn he thought it lacked theers want a calmer more on message president? how much does his tone matter compared to the substance of what he is saying? >> i mean, there has long been an argument that above a certain threshold of support, there are some people who support the former president, but quote, unquote don't like his style or don't like his communication, don't like his use of social media and twitter. and maybe that's the kind of voter you're talking about that will be affected by this. i do know having covered new hampshire, it's a good place to test it out. because it's a state that, you know, has embrace kind of tea party politics, but it's also a state where governor sununu can thrive. i think this is kind of an interesting moment for trump where he has to both try -- he can't be the insurgent. he can't be anti-establishment. he is the establishment, at least this moment for the party. and so what do you do with your message from there? i think obviously he is having some trouble with that. >> yeah,

, i'd be looking to governors, folk who is did not serve in his administration, someone like a chris sununu governor who served on both sides, a glenn youngkin. there is a lane, but it's narrow, and it's not going to be a former trump official. >> i heard mitt rom ney the othr day being asked in an interview, he thought in the end the former president couldn't win re-election in a head to head matchup. do you think that's true? >> i think that's true. i think donald trump cannot win in a head to head against joe biden on the ballot as a democratic nominee. >> what gives you that confidence? >> with the ticket -- i think that's right. you talking about kamala as the vp? people look to the top of the ticket ultimately, and you know, i think he's got a strong record to run on, and frankly, there are enough people who just don't want donald trump that i think they'd go with joe biden the same way they went last tame. very accomplished president in his first tierm, but when you talk about the reasons people voted for joe biden in 2020, it wasn't out of excitement. it was because of the alternati

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new hampshire's republican governor chris sununu with that assessment of donald trump's weekend stopeting at a high school auditorium. trump was in south carolina where he introduced his state leadership team. that's the picture at the state capitol before speaking. his speeches in both states largely mirrored each other and focused on his usual grievances. let's bring in senior writer for "the dispatcher," david drucker. never underestimate donald trump is something that i've learned to say from the get-go. having said that, something did seem really different over the weekend. >> well, look, i think, mika, what is different this time is he's not a new politician on the scene who is the ultimate change agent. what really worked for him in 2016 in a republican party but also in the general election is that he was the change agent. change agents tend to be successful in presidential elections. he's now a six year, seven year incumbent, essentially. he's been on the scene that long. his policy program isn't new. what he did in 2016 and the '22 campaign, voters are used to it. we forget

in new hampshire, our popular republican governor chris sununu has been flirting with a white house runs interesting, the two states he is going to today, there could be potential rivals on the ballot soon enough. host: we will be watching that here on c-span. paul steinhauser, thank you for joining us. guest: thanks. host: it is open forum for another few minutes. am going to try to squeeze in a few more calls from you and go next to greg in texas, democrats line. caller: thank you. i surely do not want to waste my energy on that call. ok, what i want to talk about, when you are talking about guns and when we talk about guns, when that happened in that shooting and the violence. we got what happened, the same thing that happened in the prisons. we got a lot people coming from africa, nigeria. they getting on the police force, they in prisons. they have no respect for black americans. they talked down to you in prison, they treat you like crap. they were sir then -- they worser then another virus. they have no respect for us as black people. we need to focus on what they are doing in co

in new hampshire, our popular republican governor chris sununu has been flirting with a white house runs interesting, the two states he is going to today, there could be potential rivals on the ballot soon enough. host: we will be watching that here on c-span. paul steinhauser, thank you for joining us. guest: thanks. host: it is open forum for another few minutes. am going to try to squeeze in a few more calls from you and go next to greg in texas, democrats line. caller: thank you. i surely do not want to waste my energy on that call. ok, what i want to talk about, when you are talking about guns and when we talk about guns, when that happened in that shooting and the violence. we got what happened, the same thing that happened in the prisons. we got a lot people coming from africa, nigeria. they getting on the police force, they in prisons. they have no respect for black americans. they talked down to you in prison, they treat you like crap. they were sir then -- they worser then another virus. they have no respect for us as black people. we need to focus on what they are doing in co