joining us live now to talk about the economic policies being highlighted, chris thornberg, founding rtner of beacon economics, a group that provides data analysis to government agencies, businesses and nonprofits across the political spectrum. hey, chris, thanks for joining us. >> oh, great to be here. >> so what do you make of trump and harris's economic policies as unveiled? so far? what do they reveal to you about what the candidates think americans need and want right now? >> well, obviously, what we see here is both sides continuing to dive into the populist themes that have been such a dominant part of politics, really over the last decade or so, both are talking about reducing taxes, although on who depends on who you're talking to, and both of course, continue to discuss high prices and what they may or may not be able to do about it. now, the problem here, of course, is that neither one of them are talking about that 800 pound gorilla in the room. >> wait, is it the d word? >> fiscal deficit we're running? >> yes, it's the d word. yeah, exactly. so, yeah. they're not, becaus